A604-41TE Amsoil synthetic versus ATF+3 Mpoar 7176 ??

Uh, huh. Not only homophobic, but also unable to perceive women outside of a sexual context.

Oh, immature, too.

And unresolved maternal issues besides! Wow, that's quite a diagnosis on the basis of a couple of usenet posts. Do you have any qualifications that enable you to say this, or is it just because you're Female?

Hmmm..... normally, I go by "Joe". As you, with your wide experience, are no doubt aware, if I am to be referred to formally it isn't as "Mr." Are you threatened by my degree? No reason to be, of course, since (1) it isn't relevant to the subject at hand, and (2) even if we were discussing computer science, the only point that mattered would be the arguments, not the past history. Do you perchance have a history of confusing authority figures with paternalism?

Troll slapping.

Because in the 16+ years that transmissions requiring ATF+3 have been in production, THOUSANDS of people have learned the hard way that the only fluid to use is one that meets the ATF+3 (or later ATF+4) specs. Nothing else. If it doesn't SAY that it meets the spec, we consider it poison to our vehicles, and rightly so. Now plenty of non-Chrysler branded fluids DO meet the spec and say so.

Scamsoil does NOT

I have an excellent CD rendition of the famous 1950 radio ad for motor oil Marilyn Monroe did. But it lacked one quality-no man listening gave a s*it about the OIL. I can't even remember the brand now myself.

As for the effeminate male, there are valid reasons normal males do not want to be around them. That's different from harassing or persecuitng them. They do their thing, but not around me if I can avoid it. I care less about their private lives, but I avoid the flagrantly swishy. I also avoid people with extreme BO, who act retarded, or who do some other disconcerting things.

Finally, I think DCX should be told by the car buying public that we like our cars to run on commonly available fluids, lubricants, and supplies.

I learned a valuable lesson as a young girl about men. It is best to avoid the ones who are uncomfy around "swishy" gays, because it always turns out that deep down they are uncomfy with their own sexuality, and they have severe "mommy issues".

I begin making excuse to leave, the moment any guy uses words like "normal", in regards to gender or sexuality also. It is not a red flag, but more like a huge glaring neon sign over their heads with a flashing arrow, pointing right down at them.

Any gal, with just a smidgen of sense, knows that guys like that are very often even dangerous. Our penal system is full of these manly he men, who are so very "normal" and so very NOT gay. They just have these unfortunate quirks like molesting our children, raping us, or beating us half to death.

What fluids do Chryslers use that AREN'T commonly available? G-05 coolant is everywhere. So is ATF+3.

Why is that any worse than Honda power steering fluid, Ford's insistence on fairly rare 5w-20 motor oil, or GM's DexCool?

And this experience amounts to what? A few months with one transmission?

Matt

When it comes to automatic transmissions, use the recommended fluid-period. Change it frequently, fit an aux cooler or filter, but USE THE RECOMMENDED FLUID. If some aftermarket company makes significant changes, and a bunch of other people successfully act as guinea pigs, as with Trick Shift in certain rebuilt transmissions, go ahead and use the other fluid-but do not bitch if this backfires.

Personally, I believe designing around fluids besides good old Dexron is mostly unnecessary-they are cost cutting in the design most likely or shaving weight for CAFE-but they do, and so you should follow along.

men. It is best to avoid the ones who are uncomfy around "swishy" gays, because it always turns out that deep down they are uncomfy with their own sexuality, and they have severe "mommy issues".

I begin making excuse to leave, the moment any guy uses words like "normal", in regards to gender or sexuality also. It is not a red flag, but more like a huge glaring neon sign over their heads with a flashing arrow, pointing right down at them.

Any gal, with just a smidgen of sense, knows that guys like that are very often even dangerous. Our penal system is full of these manly he men, who are so very "normal" and so very NOT gay. They just have these unfortunate quirks like molesting our children, raping us, or beating us half to death.