PhotoRADAR lens any good?

I just read in out local newspaper that a 'pilot' PhotoRADAR and Red Light camera program starts tomorrow in my area.

Does anyone has experience, or has heard about the effectiveness of this item:

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It looks as if it could work.

Please do not hijack this thread into a moral question about trying to break the law. PhotoRADAR is for revenue generation only-not the reduction of speeders.

In the Cincinnati area, they found that one PhotoRADAR unit generated $700/hour with the limit set to 6MPH over the 35MPH limit.

The Indiana State Police found that having a police car parked on the side of the road, without RADAR, or lights, reduced speeding 99% on I65. Their 'ghost cop' program was a success, but did not generate revenue, and they abandoned the program way back in 1982.

Several articles have shown statistics that Red Light cameras increase rear end collisions over the amount of any accidents made from red light runners.

I also used to work in the vehicular speed detection industry, and know the reasons why police municipalities buy RADAR guns.

So, please spare me the lecture on why photoRADAR is a good thing.

The Arizona legislature voted today against making these license plate lens illegal. Now I have a good reason to buy one and try it!

Any comments, advice, or suggestions on these lenses is appreciated.

Bill

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billccm
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Obey the damn law and you would not have to worry, where is common sense.

Coasty

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Coasty

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jdoe

Often the cameras are a sweetheart deal between the municipality and the company who sells or leases them and installs them for the municipality. The contracted company runs the biling system and splits the take with the municipality, and there are documented cases where the length of the yellow light was set to the absloute minimum allowed by law, and in some cases even shorter so that the revenue sharing was more profitable. And think they call it conflict of interest. The increased body shop business from rear-ending was an unavoidable and unintended consequence, but - hey - that's the cost of corrupt local governments.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

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Bill Putney

I agree with you up until the point that the profit motive causes the yellow light duration to be shorted to increase the revenue, and accidents and injuries caused by it be damned.

So bottom line - I think we would both agree that - yes - people should drive safely, not run red lights, and not try to beat the red light, and citizens need to watch their local goevernment in arranging these sweetheart deals where the public interest takes a back seat to generating funds and safety is actually decreased by corrupt individuals.

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

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Bill Putney

I do not run red lights, and have not had a speeding ticket since 1989. I do not want to be above the law.

However, I do flow with the traffic, and that means driving 42MPH in a

35MPH zone, and if on that particular day the city decides it needs some revenue, and sets up a photoRADAR to catch all of us 7MPH over the limit, I want to avoid being part of that tax.

Thanks for the replies, Bill

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billccm

I am an expert on these devices. They do and do not work to answe your question.

Do they work on cameras such as those on Loop 101? NO. This i because the cameras have a video back up of the violation. So th cameras can pick up your plate at one point before the blur out.

Do they work on "some other speed cameras and red light camears"? Yes Some, all depends if these have the video back up as well. Some do an some don't.

Don't feel 100% protected if you do buy one. If you do get a ticke don't be supprised.

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Just a question: if everyone is at or below the speed limit, how much money do they make?

Budd

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Budd Cochran

If everyone is at or below the speed limit, then the 'gummint' will do a speed survey and reset the speed limit at the 50 or 60 or 70 percentile mark. Then they will make plenty from the faster 50 or 40 or

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Dipstick

No, you misunderstood, if _NO ONE_ is speeding, how can they make any money?

So, if you don't want them to get any of your money, don't speed.

Simple logic.

Budd

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Dipstick

No, you can't, if you think that an absence of speeders will cause the government, whom is the entity you really object to, to cause the law to change to trap otherwise innocent drivers.

Maybe you need to live where there are no rules, if you can find such a place.

BTW, the simpler the logic, the less corruptible it is.

Budd

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Budd Cochran

Is it Troll season already?

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chas

Here in Bc Canada it was instituted by our socialist gov of the time for speeding. Fortunately our next right wing Gov removed it, but fortunately it is still used for catching those who run red lights.

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Some O

I've seen it happen. More than once. That's simple enough for me.

My primary objection is not the government or the rules as you believe. It is the government establishing and enforcing these rules in the name of safety, when in fact it has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with money.

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Dipstick

As determined by your dislike of any regulations . . .cya.

Budd

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Budd Cochran

Uhh - by shorting the yellow light duration (and in the process cause accidents and turn law-abiding citizens into law breakers, i.e., "red light runners") - which they have been caught doing several times. :)

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

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Bill Putney

No - elections aren't until '08. :)

Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')

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Bill Putney

And if that were proven to be the case ( I believe there is a Fed DOT minimum standard for the duration of the yellow light), then the lawsuits would bankrupt the entity responsible, not to mention manslaughter / murder charges for any accident related deaths, lost time wages, etc. . . .

Budd

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Budd Cochran

Bill, I just emailed the Fed DOT about the Amber duration times.

Budd

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Budd Cochran

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