That easy, Toyota loyalist are going into other brand NGs and bringing up
their old recalls in an futile effort to divert attention from the fact that
Toyota CURRENTLY is in the midst of the widest ranging world wide recall,
ever since the various governments around the world enacted legislation to
REQUIRE auto manufactures recall their dangerous vehicles.
The Tribune Newspapers reported TODAY that Toyota CURRENTLY has over
9,000,000 various and different types of vehicles, all around the world,
that are CURRENTLY subject to safety recalls.
Customer complaints to the various governments have include, but apparently
are not limited to, unintended acceleration, steering and brake problems and
fires. Toyota problems range from the smallest of their vehicles all the
way up to their luxury vehicles, hybrids and trucks
That is largest number of different types of vehicles, as well as the
highest total number, ever recalled by ANY other vehicle manufacturer in
history according the AP story.
I guess the Toyota loyalist are worried they may get injured or killed at
worst and the retail value of their cars will plummet at best.
Thanks I'll pass. Didn't like Toyotas before the recall, don't like
'em now. Their trucks have always been a joke.
BTW, I heard on the news that Kelly Bluebook has revised many Toyota
prices downward as demand plummets.
Well, that may actually make them a good buy! My biggest complaint
about Toyotas is that they are over priced compared to other vehicles
that are similar in quality and performance. In my opinion Toyota has
enjoyed an undeserved reputation for exceptional quality for several
years. I don't think Toyota builds bad vehicles any more than other
main line manufacturers, but I don't think they build exceptionally
good vehicles either. As a friend of mine said, Toyotas are
extra-ordinary, not extraordinary....
No they made an airplane, but I am not cross posting.
I merely responded to the question asked. It is guys like you, Canuk57
etall, who are cross posting the Toyota propaganda and anti GM BS in this NG
and that was my point.
You need to look at the total number of vehicles each company had on
the road at the time of the recalls, and the number involved.
The percentage of Toyotas on the road subject to recall, even with the
MASSIVE recalls currently under way, are significantly lower than the
percentage of either Ford or GM over the years.
The infamous engine mount recall by GM in the early 70's involved
something like 80% of all GM vehicles on the road at that time. I
installed a LOT of tie-down cables!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're preaching to the chior. Over the years GM Ford and Chysler have
recalled millions and millions of vehicles for even more serious issues
than this; Ford even got away with issuing dashboard stickers for
transmissions that could slip from Park to Reverse.
Toyota has one serious recall, albeit affecting a LOT of their vehicles,
and all of a sudden they're the worst car maker on Earth.
This is affecting people who would never buy a Toyota in the first place a
lot more than those of us who have had a few...or more.
OMG! I remember that! But it wasn't that they would slip into
reverse...I had a '76 Ford Granada with a automatic tranny that when you
put it in park it occasionally wouldn't engage fully in the tranny, but
on the column it was fine. The first time I discovered this, I had
parked it on a very slight incline, got out of the car and started to
walk away and then I heard "tick-tick-tick-tick..." getting
progressively faster and looked to see the car rolling away! Had to run
after it, unlock it while moving and jump in to hit the brake...Glad
there was nothing around! lol Thier fix at the time was to issue a
letter that said that this might happen and you should use the parking
brake to prevent it from happening... lmao! NO car companies would not
get away with that now, but Ford is a much different and better company
now than in the 70's....and you have to remember too - Recalls were a
"growing" evolution of car manufacturers and Gov'ts during that time.
Back in the 60's 50's, 40's - There were no recalls...Things that
happened on cars were considered "quirks" and owners were much more
involved in the maintenance and fix of the cars than they are today's
consumers, who demand 100% perfection all the time - no mistakes. So to
say that "they got away with..." when you are referencing anything
before, oh say around 1980 is kind of unfair. In fact, wasn't it the
whole Ford Pinto gas tank thing in the 70's that really got the Gov't
involved and the whole ball rolling on recalls and manufacturer's
Recalls are by far nothing new. I remember when the likes of USA Today
would front-page ANY recall GM or Ford had, no matter how insignicant
it would be as far as safety or reliability was concerned.
The big thing is the total number of recalls the Toyotas are having
today. It's totally in the tens of millions over the past few years,
and like a snowball rolling downhill, growing on an almost daily
basis. You can whitewash it any way you want, they have major issues
to deal with.
And, unlike the tire pressure monitor, or dome light malfunction, or
heaven forbid, the leaking gasket recalls GM had in the 80's and 90's,
Toyota has REAL safety and relibility issues.
Throttles sticking wide open.
If you feel that Toyota is being unfairly attacked, then you know
exactly how I feel about the way GM has been attacked for the past
Now, just compare the things on which the GM and Toyota were attacked.
Hey - just want to let everyone know that Toyota has gotten into
manufacturing keyboards and I picked one up today. Little pricey but
the quality seems
damn.....never mind... :)
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