Actually there is more than 'a little atomic' as you refer to nuclear
generated electricity in the US. It is around 21%, too bad we are not like
other counties that produce the majority, up to 90%, of their electricity
with lower cost, safer nuclear power. Wing is around 2% in comparison
You are correct in the figure of about 21% nuclear. No new plants have been
contracted in a long time, I believe.
At one point, a number of them were running far below capacity. The South
Texas nuclear facility was a real sore point, with enormous cost overruns
which were passed directly to the taxpayers. When that thing came online
it was fraught with problems and for a long time operated at no more than
about 25% capacity, as I remember it. (and I'll admit that memory is
a dirty liar!)
Joining the crowd on this, don't hold your breath for $1.30 oil. It is most
Prepare to pay $3 and up for awhile.
To all those who bought gas guzzling SUV's, enjoy them, (even though it may
feel like you are paying alimony.) MobilExxon thanks you, ChevronTexaco
thanks you, and their stockholders thank you.
Any car I buy now will have to get near 30 mpg on the highway or more.
I will personally watch my driving habits, and plan my trips, as I am on a
retirement income. And I will get my bicycle out for the shorter errands...
probably live longer that way anyhow.
That is what usually happens when the price of gasoline goes up, the people
with the econoboxes drive less. Those that can afford 50K or 70K to buy
what they buy don't seem to worry about the price of the fuel they need.
The people that are thankful for high gas prices are the commodious buyers,
they are the ones making the most money off of gasoline, along with the
Well, not all people are satisfied with it. When you look at the cars on
market, there are not so many that will give you a true 30-35 mpg.
Hybrids can do it, but that technology is still not well accepted, and the
and risks of buying are elevated.
Americans, in particular, still want their big cars with powerful
that is what the car makers are going to offer...as long as they can. Only
Americans demand more efficient cars, and are willing to buy them, will we
reduce our consumption of petroleum.
And why should we reduce it? Namely, because we are at a strategic
We produce only a third to a half roughly of the petroleum we use...the
imported from foreign sources and that supply chain is stretching thinner
That's easy, American are not willing to buy little cars in great numbers,
as their primary vehicles. They prefer the larger safer vehicles that why
55% of the vehicles sold in the US are trucks and SUVs.
How are they safer if everyone else gets the same or similar SUV? Sounds
like a programmed reply. You and alot of others seem that way here. And
making the dominoes fall the way you want, but not making sense in the
process (in my mind). Rather it sounds like a "moo" in the big cattle
gathering. No cahoonas to stand your ground to save you some money. "Moo,
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You're funny Jonny. Your's is the herd mentality. Likewise, it's the one
with no thought put into the comment. Think hard through your initial
comment above. Don't just jump on your anti-SUV wagon. The whole "herd
mentality", "moo" thing has become a tired cliche of the little car folks.
I'm not sure if it's really herd mentality at work within that group, or the
annoying sound of a swarm of insects.
One can not defy the laws of physics. The larger the vehicle the less
likely the changes that properly belted passengers will be injured or
killed, even if one collides with one of the same type. The reason is
simple, the larger the vehicles the more room there is to design in the
crumple zones. The better the crumple zones, the better able to absorb the
impact, the slower will be the terminal speed of the 'third collision,'
when your organs strikes your skeleton.
What make you believe the oil companies can control the price of gas? If
they actually could control the price, the price would never go down. The
only was the average person can save money on fuel is to buy stock in one of
the commodities companies. ;)
They dont directly control the world crude oil prices. But they have
a vested interest in them...
Those companies which refine crude to produce gasoline and other products
could conceivably sell the gasoline over a range of prices...If they
the refiners could get a pretty penny for gasoline. They could take scalps.
If they chose to enter fuel wars, they could possibly sell it a bit cheaper
than we would predict.
For example, a barrel of crude is 42 US gallons, or 168 US quarts. If that
barrel costs $70, then they would have to refine a product mix that would
yield an average of $0.42 per quart, or $1.68 per gallon to break even.
Lubricating oil and other specialty distillates make more than that by far.
So gasoline is almost like a waste product.. They COULD sell it for less,
but why should they??
The oil companies are not in it to subsidize goobers with guzzling SUV's.
They want to make money from that barrel of oil...
Of course I have heard of the commodities market...
Regardless of the price of crude, there are many ways to handle the
accounting of refining operations. The oil companies have oil they
receive from existing contracts and that they buy on the spot market.
They refine the crude and come up with an optimum product mix from
that crude. And, they set their prices for this mix based on the (1)
prices of the feed stock, (2) the cost of their total overhead including
operations, and (3) what the market will bear. They are in it to make
not to subsidize goobers driving 400 hp SUVS.
Do we more or less agree;>)
Let us assume your analysis is correct for a moment, that they did sell off
the distillates from their lower cost crude at lower prices. Where would
they get the money to replace that $50 a barrel crude with the current $70 a
Look at it this way. While inspecting the garage you just bought, the Fire
Marshall discovers a 55 gallon drum of gasoline.. You are ordered to dispose
of it within 24 hours or pay $500 a day fine. The 12 gallon tank in your
car is full. Somebody offers you $1.50 a gallon for it, another offers you
$2 a gallon. To whom will you sell the gas, considering to replace it you
will need to pay $2.50 a gallon?
The world in general may be out of oil as soon as 2012, 30 years later at
the outset. And you're scheming how to make it cheaper, thus using more,
and accelerating the process.
6 or 7 dollars a gallon is more appropriate for the present. Tune up your
Moped. No, I'm not kidding.
Major world problems: population growth, resources to support such a
population including oil, food sources, and potable water. Economic
systems, especially the USA, all depend on more population, resources, and
But for fun, guess all can talk about the futile and short (and getting
shorter) term crapola you're speaking of.
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