see, you're representative of the public at large. You can't possibly
imagine that a Prius could behave like every other car in the
world--even though you've never owned or driven one.
The driver can indeed yank the shifter into neutral and/or turn the car
off. Yanking into neutral is as easy as it is in a Buick--touch shift
lever, move to neutral.
And you know what happens? Yeah. No drama. Drive system disengages,
gas engine stops running, car immediately starts slowing down.
If you're using the power button, they've programmed it with a 3 second
delay. You'd know that if (a) you owned one, and (b) you bothered to
read the owner's manual of your shiny new $25,000 toy. Of course,
arrogant asses who claim they know everything about driving never bother
even to open or keep track of their owner's manual, let alone read it,
so they wouldn't know how their specific car operates. Even when they
get in and see that there's no key like in their '67 Buick, they never
bother to investigate how that power button works.
Correct. So? It *does* have a shifter, it *does* have a neutral
position--why do you think moving the shifter to neutral "might not be
Just like your '67 Buick does, yes. It's called "shift the sonunvabitch
to neutral and coast to a stop".
Dude, SHIFTING TO NEUTRAL IS NOT A "TOYOTA INNOVATION". What the fuck
is so hard to understand about this simple and oh-so-basic function?
For Sikes to have claimed that "I thought the car would flip if I
shifted to neutral" is enough for me to demand that he be taken off the
road for the rest of his life.
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:47:56 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
And that is the bottom line. I would worry that the engine might
destroy itself if I shifted a runaway car into neutral, but given that
the other option is to smash into someone else at 90+ mph, I take that
I'm pretty old, just one ticket in the last 15 years, never a serious
accident, always insured, etc.
Not too irresponsible as it applies to cars.
I also have a car that has a fully adjustable redline. The engine was
built to handle 8,000 rpm shifts without damage, and those shifts are
not necessarily on a public road.
Never have texted while driving though. I don't really text at all with
I did text once. I was at a conference with multiple simultaneous
tracks and thought that my boss should see the session I was in. So I
texted her rather than be distracting to the people around me. A few
minutes later she showed up.
My fourteen year old god-daughter, on the other hand, hit 15,000 in
one month. Now, that's incoming and outgoing but still, that's a lot
of messages. I really need to see a transcript but I won't live long
enough to read through 15,000 messages.
No. I have one. It WILL shift into neutral at any speed. It WILL turn
off by pressing the power button without shifting to park. It WILL
operate at or below the speed limit and can be operated without having a
wreck so I don't have to make up stories about it "running away on its
When stopped, at a red light for instance, the gasoline engine will shut
down when the battery is above a pre-set level. When the battery level
drops the gasoline engine will start automatically, run at idle speed,
and recharge the battery. If the light is a long one and the battery
draw is high this cycle may repeat.
IMHO almost all runaway cars are caused by a defect in the central
processor of the driver. The driver steps on the gas instead of the
brake, panics, and presses the gas pedal even harder thinking they are
pressing the brake pedal. Then again, I live in Florida, seems like we
have a lot of runaway cars of all makes and models. Interestingly high
percentage of Cadillacs and Lincolns with VERY senior citizens. Remember
now, this is all just MHO.
It has a system by which it monitors the battery charge level. It will
run on the battery only at idle and up to about 25 mph with 'normal'
acceleration. When the battery charge is reduced to a pre-set level the
gas engine starts up automatically to charge it, or if you do a jack
rabbit start from a stop it will start also. The thing apparently
doesn't have a traditional starter. The gas motor just starts running
when needed almost like an old fashioned jump start from a push and
popping the clutch.
It's kinda wild. Ours is an '07 and is exempt, so far anyway, from the
problems making the rounds. It still causes me to look when it shuts the
gas motor down while, for instance, at a red light. It just goes against
all my experience for the motor to suddenly stop. With a strictly gas
motor this is a pretty not good thing.
All systems will function normally while on battery only. The thing has
a display that shows the status of the system, battery level, gas engine
running and charging the battery, gas engine running and delivering
drive power, power recovery from the brakes to the battery. It can be
distracting because it's fun to watch.
Well, what happened with that guy who claimed his kid floated away in a hot
air balloon last year? Last headline I saw said something like "Authorities
say charges pending." This Prius guy did something not very dissimilar.
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