Jeep Realiability

I wonder if they were comparing vehicles driven under the same conditions. I bet not; I would expect a Jeep to be put through much harder driving conditions. Try taking that #1 reliability ranked Mazda Miata on the some trails at Moab. I bet it wouldn't have a lower repair bill than a Jeep...

I wonder if there is any connection between pride in ownership and vehicle repair. You would think that somebody who liked their vehicle would take care of it more than say....somebody who only used their vehicle for pure transportation.

Brian

88 YJ

I like the berakdown statistics the Swiss Touring Club is publishing. The Club operates a nationwide fleet of mobile mechanics to get you going again after a breakdown. The statistics counts the number of vehicles with a breakdown compared to the complete fleet in operation. In the last decade Subaru, Tojota and Mercedes have been leading the pack with sometimes considerable margins. French brands are the worst. (despite this trusty Citroen Xantia is running reliably and comfortably with its air-pressure suspension).

Features some nice graphics.

A bit orthoepic ,no Jeep info there (they too rare over here...)

Markus

Couple of thoughts:

1. What is the cost of parts in the UK relative to the US?
2. Are we talking dealers or independent mechanics?

The most expensive repair I've had on my Jeep so far was $600. The radiator plugged up on my way out of town on a 1000 mile road trip that couldn't be postponed, so I needed a dealer to replace it on the spot. For more routine stuff, I found a mechanic that works cheap, as long as you don't need it in any kind of hurry. For example, replacing the valve cover gasket was $60 including the part.

Depends on the climate and conditions. The UK tends to have gentler weather and better roads than the US, so probably makes less sense there.

I can see the stickers now:

"It's a 'special interest' thing, you wouldn't understand." td

sadly, people today buy cars so they can 'look good' but this makes no sense. i don't know how many times i smack my forehead in astonishment as seeing a Ford Explosion or whatever the fsck they call that thing, lowered and 22" rims and lo-pro tires WTF is that?

people who buy jeeps and use them for their intended purpose are bviously going to put their equipment to the test more often than some pimped out exploder. wranglers are not SUV's; they are UV's!

hahahahah, i would pay to see it! that would surely offset some of the cost of repair right?

What about VW? If you want to own a VW, you better buy the Bentley manual and own your own tools. Parts are very expensive for VW, Honda, etc. Ford parts are cheaper...

If you want to own a Jeep, you better...You get the idea. Jeep parts IMHO are very reasonable. I am comparing that to my VW. I own two VWs and my YJ.

Owning a Jeep compliments my other vehicles. The one VW is more of a project car at this time.

This can be true for many things. Most people are not sensitive enough to pro-actively know if something is wrong before it is too late. That is where one who works on his own equipment knows the equipment's limitations.

Landy better than a Jeep for reliability ? Are they serious ??

Dave Milne, Scotland '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Jeeps are well expensive for parts over here. Landys / Fords are fairly cheap. The weather may be better, but it rains often and we still put salt on the roads; consequently everything rusts.

Dave Milne, Scotland '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

Here in the States Land Rover is a perennial bottom dweller on our reliability studies. Some of my old staff from Jaguar USA are now responsible for Land Rover and have me in stitches laughing at some of the current LR reliability problems. Having worked for Jaguar for 15 years, including pre-Ford, it's all "Deja Vu All Over Again". Oil leaks, electrical problems, corrosion, poor panel fits, bad paint, worn leather, broken switchgear...what would we expect, as soon as Ford fired a Jaguar engineer, he got hired at Rover!

Sounds about right.. I shuttle between Edinburgh and Solihull where they make Land Rovers. Despite the fact that Landys have more substantial chassis, suspension and running gear , I didn't buy one - the electrolytic corrosion from the alloy and steel is bad, the turbo diesel engines are crap (and that's all you can get in a Defender - bring back the 61-63 Buick

3528cc, now 4600cc derived engine from the Disco). My pal got a second hand Range Rover recently ; looked a lot better deal than my Jeep, but two days later it started all by itself, blew its computer and landed the owner with a 1600 USD repair bill. Then the heated seats broke etc etc etc. When a Solihull mechanic recommends you avoid LR, there has to be something wrong !

Ah, but fear not, Mother Ford is here to help! Pretty soon you'll be able to buy a Ford-based Land Rover, which won't off-road worth a crap, but it'll start every time!

What part of Scotland are you from, mate?

Jaguar has a new car in addition to the X Type based on the Ford Mondeo/Contour?

Approximately 10/1/03 18:00, L.W.(ßill) Hughes III uttered for posterity: