Re: Cal's YJ: First ride!

Sep 30, 2003 18 Replies

Well, that's a long story! I installed these axles about 6 months before all the first trick reverse pinion custom center sections came on the market. Although I ordered reverse pinion axles from the shop who did the installation, they've admitted they messed up the order with Dynatrac by not specifying reverse in writing and the story goes from there. I didn't make a big fuss over the whole deal, the shop and Dynatrac discounted the axles significantly and in the end they're stout as hell and work great. If I wanted more than the actual 5.5" lift that's on there they might be a problem, but any more than this and I can't get the YJ it in the garage.



Initially we shortened and reused the original front driveshaft which worked fine with the NP231. Then I installed a RE 4.5" lift, which uses 5" shackles. These screwed up the pinion angle along with the caster. Then we installed the Atlas II and had to shorten the front driveshaft even more. The angles involved weren't all that extreme, but the yokes weren't aligned well and it tended to set up an internal rattling in the Atlas in 4wd hi at certain road speeds. I had the caster checked at my local alignment shop and installed 2 degree steel shims in front to get it in spec. Then we installed the CV front driveshaft and a new yoke on the Atlas. Voila, works like a champ.


I know, I was referring to the D60 in the rear. Tera and Dynatrac both came out with custom high clearance, reverse center sections about 6 months after I got these installed.

The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-)

  • * * Matt Macchiarolo
    formatting link
    formatting link
    formatting link

Clearance to keep the driveshaft from hitting the exhaust, I believe.

  • * * Matt Macchiarolo
    formatting link
    formatting link
    formatting link

Actually, I was thinking of a high pinion D60! LOL, dream on, Jim...

Now THAT would be sweet. Maybe a Dynatrac Roc 60, huh?

For liability reasons they're not inclined to do anything that aids the modification of suspension components, etc. Hell, DC even got sued a few years ago by some guys estate because a home made bumper on an old AMC-era CJ fell off on the freeway. Apparently this poor guy was killed when he hit the junk bumper laying on the highway. DC was charged with negligence in the design of the old Jeep because it was so easy to add a bumper to the thing, etc. (After they bought out AMC, DC became liable for all of the old products.) The jury sided with DC, but it probably cost them $1m in legal fees to defend the case. No one sued the poor idiot who made the bumper, probably didn't have a pot to....well, you know.

Yeah, I know... That kind of stuff just sticks in my craw. ("Not da 'craw'..., da 'craw'!") Everyone seems to look for the deep pockets and the lawyers are the only ones getting rich!

*sigh*

Here lawyers get reprimanded by the judge for wasting the court's time..

Dave Milne, Scotland '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

: > For liability reasons they're not inclined to do anything that aids the : > modification of suspension components, etc. Hell, DC even got sued a few : > years ago by some guys estate because a home made bumper on an old AMC-era : > CJ fell off on the freeway. Apparently this poor guy was killed when he : hit : > the junk bumper laying on the highway. DC was charged with negligence in : the : > design of the old Jeep because it was so easy to add a bumper to the : thing, : > etc. (After they bought out AMC, DC became liable for all of the old : > products.) The jury sided with DC, but it probably cost them $1m in legal : > fees to defend the case. No one sued the poor idiot who made the bumper, : > probably didn't have a pot to....well, you know. : >

: > > -- : > > Jim : > > 98 TJ SE : > > 90 SJ GW : > >

formatting link
> >

: > >

: > > > >What they *really* needed was a high pinion in the rear! That would : > have : > > > >made small to moderate lifts a *whole* lot easier and cheaper! : > > > >

: > > > >-- : > > >

: > > > The D35 is weak enough, you want to go and weaken it more? :-) : > > > * * * : > > > Matt Macchiarolo : > > >

formatting link
: > > >
formatting link
: > > >
formatting link
> > >

: > > >

: > > >

: > > >

: > >

: > >

: >

: >

: :

Better yet, under UK law the person bringing an unsuccessful suit has to pay the other sides legal fees. Being a scum-sucking trial lawyer himself, our esteemed former President Clinton vetoed this type of law here in the States. The USA, where the biggest & best lawyers annuity is the law!

I knew there was a good reason besides the beer to move to the UK...

  • * * Matt Macchiarolo
    formatting link
    formatting link
    formatting link

They should have to pay expenses when they come up with these half assed suits. Then, maybe they'd think twice.

That would be perfect. But with an entire government made up of present and former lawyers, there isn't a snowball's chance of that ever happening.

But, then the trail lawyers would actually have to prove fault, rather than just trolling for cash settlements.

What was it that Lee Iaccoca said in "Talking Straight?" from 1950 to 1980's saw an eightfold increase in the number of laywers in the US? Hey, they all gotta eat...

He also repeated the old story, "There was a small town with one lawyer and he was starving. Then another moved into town and they both got rich..."

  • * * Matt Macchiarolo
    formatting link
    formatting link
    formatting link

a light has dawned so big it dwarfs the sun ... never knew you guys didn't have that.

Dave Milne, Scotland '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

I would append this to read "Of the Lawyers & Insurance Companies,

Companies," because the insurance companies for the most part pay the settlements on behalf of the insured, and then everyone pays through higher premiums...

In the US attorneys even advertise, look in any phone book and you'll see full page ads with catch phrases like "medical malpractice," "slip and fall," "personal injury," "get every dollar you deserve...", in Detroit, "Attorney Sam Bernstein" has TV ads during the daytime talk shows.

My wife's brother-in-law is an attorney but he's dealt more with criminal defense. His brother, however, is one of those who gives attorneys the bad rap...he's one of those ambulance chasers who screws the insurance companies, but if he loses a case and his clients can't pay his fees (no settlement to take 40% of), he puts a lien on his client's house, etc.

They used to share an office and their practice until his brother had all incoming calls to the office (i.e. new clients) forwarded to his house, so now he's going to start his own practice.

  • * * Matt Macchiarolo
    formatting link
    formatting link
    formatting link

And IIRC, the US tort system is unique in the world....

  • * * Matt Macchiarolo
    formatting link
    formatting link
    formatting link

Join the Discussion

Have something to add? Share your thoughts — no account required.

Didn't find your answer?

Ask the community — no account required