Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car

I've never had a new car either. The newest was a 'service loaner' that was a year old and had 3500 miles on it.

Doesn't work either. Respect is earned through hard honest work and is easily damaged.

The station where I paid 32.9 for premium also sold #2 diesel. It was 16.9 cents a gallon.

I think his point was, how can a relatively few Mercedes diesels affect the demand when hundreds of thousands of tractors are on the road?

Now Bill......

of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

Really? I was a tech at Robert's VW 75-79. It was in an old gas station. We sold diesel only at the pumps, plenty of Benzes and Peugots around La Jolla back then. The others I named were the nearest competitors. We probably pumped about 100-150 gallons per day back then. You could research it and ask the former owner, Bill Clum, he lives near you in Temecula

We sold diesel, not gas. The building on the corner of La Jolla Blvd and Midway St was once a Phillips 66, and it sold gas up to 73 when Robert moved in. It was in the mid-80s when they moved to Mission Bay Drive and the pumps were shut down. Place a wager worth my time, and I will get county records to prove it. You really shouldn't accuse someone of lying to cover your ignorance. It's rude, offensive, and makes you look foolish.

A well-tuned diesel can be cleaner than a vehicle running ULP.

J.

Volkswagen chairman Bernd Pischetsrieder gave a talk at the LA auto show and spoke about the new diesels (with low sulfur fuel) running cleaner, getting better mileage that gas-electric hybrids, being more dependable with lower maintenance and available at a reasonable cost.

Exactly. Amazing how many people don't know that.

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Well, is ULP 'bunker C'?

That must be an impossible job to 'well tune' them then because they are the stinkiest and sootiest things on the road.

It is impossible to follow a Canadian transit bus with a top down Jeep. You will fast get gassed out or smoked out or sooted out or smogged out or whatever you want to call it, it is just downright nasty.

Mike

Yeah, they have those in small passenger cars in Europe. I don't know about mileage, maintenance or dependability, but they smell bad and they are loud too. The only thing worse, are the scooters that sound like a chain saw or a string trimmer. Gasoline is damn expensive here, and lots of people still use it, even in trucks. There must be a reason.

Earle

It's a fool's errand to argue with Bill, of course. But any others can figure that since Mercedes Benz at their peak never sold enough diesel cars in a whole year for every car owner on Staten Island to own one, the total effect or them on fuel prices was negligible. I'm sure Mercedes engines in Carrier and ThermoKing truck reefer units burned more diesel than did Mercedes engines in cars.

One of those old pushrod OMs would sure go good in an old flatfender though, wouldn't it? And you can get them for a couple hundred bucks.