101 MOT

snipped-for-privacy@cix.compulink.co.uk posted ...

Wouldn't it make more sense to just contact the MOT centre that you want it tested at, or others close by the location, to see if it will fit ?

On or around Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC), snipped-for-privacy@cix.compulink.co.uk enlightened us thusly:

the GS is probably a light commercial - what's its gross weight?

the camper should get away with being a dual-purpose vehicle.

Mind, ISTR that anything 4x4 is dual-purpose...

we've an MOT tester in here somewhere, don't we?

if it's got a camper body on it it's definitely class 4 however due to the size some class 4 test centres may not be able to accommodate it best check before hand

Andy

The problem is that I need to book it in prior to leaving Ireland as it will have expired by then. I had the GS done next door to Tyresave in Connah's Quay, but that has too low a roof. Anywhere between Holyhead and Wokingham will do :-). What are the rules relating to distance travelled to get to an MOT (if any)?

Is Class 4 a regular car tester?

Malcolm.

yes Class 4 is a regular car tester As for the distance travelled, a very grey area AIUI, it must be within a reasonable distance but deciding what is a reasonable distance is the problem I would have thought that if you were staying in Wokingham then it's reasonable to travel there to get it done BUT I don't make the rules so this could get you into bother if stopped as 270 miles or so may not be seen as reasonable

however if none of the test stations on your way can accommodate the vehicle because of size it's not unreasonable IYSWIM

Andy

I think to qualify as dual purpose it has to have an unladen weight of

AJH

In news:c20020$ian$ snipped-for-privacy@thorium.cix.co.uk, snipped-for-privacy@cix.compulink.co.uk sprayed:

Try the North!

I spent ages finding out about this when i got my 101 ambi MOT'd last year. My ambi is down on the V5 as a camper. At the time it was still original (so still an ambi, but the guy believed my intentions to convert it)

It definately still needs a standard MOT. not a class 7. (You can get a class 7 on it if you like, but theres no point!)

I tried loads of places before i found one who could get it on their lift and who didnt want to be awkward buggers about it.

The place i eventually went to was a motorhome/camper specialist, so he did it with no hassle atall. If i were you i'd look for a garage like this near you. there must be some dealers or specialists not too far away!

My parents have a fancy new motorhome, and that isnt too different in general size and weight to my ambi. Theres no question about that needing anything other than a normal MOT.

ICBW, but so far as weight goes, you can only get away with it being classed as a camper if it has a fixed sink and cooker.

Took my GS to my local testing centre, they told me that they would not be able to do it cos it was a class 7. Booked it in for a class 7 test and the chap who was doing the mot said it was a car. He was very knowledgeable since he had driven them when he was in the forces. He told me that Landrovers fall into there own class as 4x4 general utility vehicles simply because they do not easily fit into any class. However, for testing purposes they are tested as a class 4 and Andy said. The conclusion we have come to is that some test centres do not like to have much to do with them cos they are bigger and a bit different from the average mondeo. Indeed the garage I originally booked it in with were happy when I told them what it was on the phone, but hadn't actually realised what it was and its dimensions til I took it there, therefore I suggest that you spell it out in very simple language just what it is and its dimensions when you book it in to avoid this problem. I believe that places that test class 7 vehicles are able to test class 4 (I may be wrong) so this may be a safer bet for its dimensions, that is what I ended up doing anyway.

Hope its of help

Graham

Graham

Last year my GS was done as a group 7, last week it was done as a group 4.

Go figure.

And it passed ! to my superlative surprise.

Steve

On or around Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:40:00 +0000 (UTC), snipped-for-privacy@cix.compulink.co.uk enlightened us thusly:

well, there's a decent bod up the road from me. twixt Lampeter and Llandovery, if that's any use. and you could call in for a cuppa.

depends how confident you are of it passing, really.

We have two 101 Ambi's and both of them are classed as "Class 4" by the garage in the village (Brixworth-Northampton) although my cousins garage at Naseby swore blind it needed a class 7??? Anyhow it just goes to show that the testers don't really know what to call a 101 as it is "out of the norm" . Does a vehicle that is 4x4 not automatically become "Dual purpose"?

Wondering.....

Should do if it's under 2040kg

Andy

If it's registered as PLG, then it's Class 4 MOT. Even a 40ft coach can be registered as Class 4, and driven on a Category B licence provided it is kitted out as a Motorhome. The weight is irrelevant, so far as the MOT goes. However some MOT stations don't have 9ft high openings and lifts that will accomodate a 3-ton vehicle. Best check with the garage that they can accomodate it first.

Alex

Does that make all the Subaru's and Audi Quattro's (et al) of this world dual purpose vehicles too?

Regards Steve G

Its only a camper if it is a camper !

Yours is actually a minibus ? (ie. have you put the seats in it yet ?) or a van

A 101 ambulance can be MOT'd on a class 4 if it is still an ambulance or if it is a camper

A camper needs certain items for it (ie. fitted cooker, bed, sink and I think for some strange reason wardrobe)

If it is empty in the back (ie. a van) then it needs a class 7 (Tiggurr was refused for class 4 once while I was converting him)

The GS comes under different rules because of its dual use definition

And I think the weight limits are on plated weights (i may be wrong - it has happened before) so an ambi is 3.6 tonnes so over the standard limit for a class 4 unless you use the camper/ambulance get out clause

So you may be better just getting a class 7 - remember its your problem if you've got the wrong MOT certificate not the MOT stations

Rich

in article 404500e4$0$245$ snipped-for-privacy@lovejoy.zen.co.uk, Rich Clafton at rclafton at lineone.net wrote on 2/3/04 9:46 pm:

Class 7 are usually done by the places that test lorries, if I remember correctly. Its a long while since I took anything up there - last vehicle was the Merc van that the band Bruce was in, used to transport the guitars, amps, PA and lighting they owned to gigs.

obviously depends on how clued up the particular bod at a particular centre is. You would think that with something so important as an MOT that the centres would be aware of how to tell these things.

Was shocked when mine past, particularly as the bod doing it had spent the entire time going on about how much he hated them when he was in the forces. Still I suppose it paid to have someone who knew what they were looking at, atleast you can come away knowing that it is safe.

Graham