Hummers

On or around Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:55:11 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

mind, I don't actually see tinyurl as a risk, as such.

sounds nice though...

Regards. Mark.

Yes Steve. you're exactly right. they are quite a different beast.

don't know wether you fellas get it over in UK, but over in Aus they are a couple of firms that offer hummer kits. they have everything you need to transform a Landcruiser or Nissan Patrol into a hummer look-alike, basically an H2. they always look awkwardly narrow to me. while the genuine hummers always look stupidly wide.

Cheers

Sam.

Not anywhere near as nice as a 4.6L Rover V8 - IMO an all that...

Depends how it's done, it's great on the Pinzgauer, although it's described as swinging half-axles on there rather than IFS, but the suspension is still independent on each wheel. When you load it at the back it does crab down on the suspension reducing the ground clearance, but even in that state it probably has more than a non-loaded landy!

The Hummer H2 has beam axles though, it's based on a Chevvy Tahoe IIRC which never really did very well. It's a crap car. The proper hummer isn't bad, just enormous, with a long wheelbase so not much good for rock-crawling or really bumpy off-roading. It has IFS which doesn't help.

I read somewhere that one of the design requirements of the proper hummer was that it should be able to drive in the track ruts of an Abrahams tank as it was supposed to act as a support vehicle for them. Hence the girth!

I don't think a stolly is in the same league as a scammel, you can haul a

Yeah but most railway locomotives still travel in the tracks of a Roman Chariot. Essentially the gauge was fixed by the practical distance of a horses arse and the yoke around its neck.

Yes you are, yes you are, yes you are.

Go on go on go on go on You know you want one

Alex

or one of these maybe

nigelH

There was program on TV some years ago about a group of Yanks setting out design "the ideal off roader" - mostly set in the Sahara, and what they came up with was pretty much a Mk.1 Hummer. To get the mentality of the team, they observed a number cars getting stuck (Peugot 405's mostly), ignored the 2CV having no trouble at all (the 2CV, certainly a few years ago, was the only production saloon capable of crossing the Sahra unmodified) and a 110 Station Wagon, full of people with litteraly a 6 foot stack of luggage on the roof, struggling a bit but still moving. They seemed to thing this was a problem! Their vehicle, in two formats - 4x4 and 6x6, was then shown trundling along with 4 people and no luggage to speak of. There's nothing like being objective!

I had cause to watch a 90, a Pinzgauler and a Hummer undergoing braking and swerve tests with a trailer a few years ago. The results were surprising...... Plus talking to some of those who were doing the tests was enlightening. Replacing the

And finally....... in Bosnia/Croatia the US forces borrowed LR's off the Austrailians and Turks - the Hummers couldn't get down the roads.

You've got laugh.

Richard

On or around Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:44:30 +0100, "Larry" enlightened us thusly:

I know where there's an old one (Pioneer, maybe?), sitting in a forest - apparently it was driven there, so in theory it'd run...

We bought the Pinzgauer to replace the Landrovers the army used. the Unimogs we have had for years - assuming you are talking about the trucks. The Pinzgauer soudns like a serious piece of offroad kit. Geoff

As I understand it the Pinzgauer uses locking diffs to maintain traction and has very very poor axle articulation, which means it is always going to be inferieor to a land rover with locking diffs, just a thought

Regards. Mark.

Denial...

Of course. I'm waiting for you to pull up outside in it to further scare the neighbours. (I have a spare bucket for the petrol).

But which one to bring?

Choices choices... :)

'ang on a mo... dida miss summat there... ?

You do realise that if you tell me you have two pinkies I'll have no alternative other than to hurt you when next we meet.