I've got no experience (in Range Rovers that is)

Don't even think about it!

The A-frame provides lateral restraint to the rear axle. Without it you'll be lucky to get round the first corner without a catastrophe. It has nothing to do with controlling body roll. Others will be along later to tell you about safety, lack of insurance etc..

As for body roll - d> I've owned this, my first Rangie must be for about a month or so now, and

Don't even think about it!

The A-frame provides lateral restraint to the rear axle. It also (along with the radius arms) resists the driving and braking torques. Without it you'll be lucky to get round the first corner without a catastrophe. It has nothing to do with controlling body roll. Others will be along later to tell you about safety, lack of insurance etc..

As for body roll - don't worry. It's very much a perception thing - once you're used to it your driving style will soon adapt to accomodate the (few) downsides.

john smith wrote:

In message , Dougal writes

One word says it all - SCARY :-) If you remove the A frame the best way to reduce future body roll would be to remove the wheels as well!!!

More seriously, you can remove the load leveller from that area and replace the road springs with heavy duty ones which will make a difference. Putting some decent shocks on may help - they won't reduce the roll, just control it better.

put the a frame back on now! The axle will move side ways when conering, and will cause the diff to nose down when driving, leading to the prop uj's binding, shearing the prop and then you discover how rusty the floor is as the prop flails about at speed..... The suspension arms at the back are only connected to the axle at a single point, unlike the front where they connect to the axle at 2 points.

While the A frame is out, I would rebush it, because sods law states if you don't, the job will need doing for the MOT.

You dont say if yours has had anti roll bars fitted, if it has, I would also suspect the anti roll bar bushes

If you have a lot of body roll, IMHO I would be looking at rebushing the whole of the suspension system, new springs and new shocks.

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3.5V8 100" Hybrid, now LPG converted Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, currently under restoration Suzuki SJ410 (Girlfriend's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next 1993 200 TDi Discovery (the Pug 106 is dead, long live the Pug)

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Put it back, now!

Thanks everyone for your prompt replies....I feel pretty stupid!!! I will be rebushing the A frame and putting it back in ASAP, I didn't mention that I'm not actually driving it on the road at the moment, it's in the back yard having rust cut and replacing/repairing just about everything from the seat springs to the...A frame bushes! I was very excited to find

via this group last night. Nowhere in Australia seems to stock repair panels for underbody so I was full of joy to find a complete listing of prefab parts that I've been trying to dodgey up with my angle grinder and welder! What a wonderful place the UK must be...Rover spares just lying around every where....and I hear the summers aren't that bad either!

Summers are great here, but a little short. We had ours one day in June, when it was sunny for almost an hour.

Bugger. Missed it again!

Terry

S'OK, there's another one scheduled in about 2010, sun spots permitting.