Series 1 86" For Sale

What year is it really? The plate can't be right? It's a 1967 plate!

It's Ex RAF hance the 1967 registration plate

Fergus

Fergus,

Cheers :-) Had half the office scratching it's head on that one :-)

Where are you?

Cheers

Peter

Plod might also be concerned that the plate is obscured. :-(

From what perspective? All 'traffic management' pics I've ever seen of my vehicles have been taken from above and offset by a few meters. Never once (in any son of Solihul) had a pull from a real cop standing/sitting at street level.

The speed cameras generally get the back plate too dont they anyhow.

hey ho - there's more than one type of traffic management that needs to be monitored in this brave new land - and I have evidence that not all cameras photograph the rear of passing vehicles.

On or around Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:40:05 -0000, "William Tasso" enlightened us thusly:

my problem is with the use of digital cameras and digital images as sole evidence. It's too easy to alter them.

I was following a car the other day, and with the nature of the font (although AFAIK perfectly legal when it was made) and the presence of damage to the top of the plate making a U look like an O, it could have been interpreted easily as SOO rather than the SDU that it actually was. Depending on the quality and clarity of the image, it might well not be possible to tell. If you use image enhancing software on it, then the software make an arbitrary decision that this or that pixel should be black or yellow (OK, that's a crude approximation, but you get the drift) and you can't tell me that it always gets it right.

That's without considering the possibility of tampering with evidence. Not saying that the evidence *would* be tampered with, merely the possibility that it *can*, without being detectable, is enough to make the evidence unreliable.

I was once told off, in no uncertain terms for reversing up to a pumpin petrol station and filling up (all the other pumps were full). The excuse given?

"What if there was a fire?"

my reply :

"I'd drive out? There's an entrance/exit at both ends!"

The woman looked confused and flustered. Then she stated they would refuse to serve me again if I ever did it again!!

When I went back out to the vehicle I had a look around, and lo! What was evident? A camera pointing at where my front number plate *should* have been if I owned a Eurobox. Bless the silly tart, if she'd bothered to look at her CCTV screen which was showing the FRONT of my vehicle she'd have seen that my number plate was affixed to the offside of the vhicle bumper, at an angle (you've all seen winch bumpers). At this angle her camera would have taken a picture of my fairlead or my steering guard!

I went back in and asked her if the problem was the number plate recognition. She said no! Stupid. The point is I was paying - so the very notion of me nicking the fuel was ridiculous. Secondly she should not have AUTHORISED the pump if she could not make out the plate!!!

Doh!

Anyway - the end result was she looked dumb using such a pathetic excuse in front of the rest of the customers, who were also looking at the huge forecourt and wondering how a fire would make any difference to the direction you were facing!

From the perspective that the photo (the second one) was taken. Extend the line/angle back and it's probably not far off your "above and offset by a few meters". The plate is quite obviously partially obscured as seen from the front. If this is a 'permitted' situation, then why do we have to have front number plates on vehicles at all?

Steve

'why' questions are notoriously difficult to answer - moreso when applied to legislation governing the use of motor vehicles.

In this case I think I could make a reasonable fist of the 'book' answers, but as for the real reason ... no idea. :)

The vehicle is located near Stowmarket in Suffolk, sorry forgot to mention that. I recon the numberplate is too obscured, I was planning to either remove the over-riders or fit a new bumper to return it to original.

Thanks, Fergus

She probably used the excuse to save telling you the real reason - most people I know hate others reversing up to the pump in front of them, blocking their exit whilst you start your fill, so they wait whilst you refuel and pay (only applies in situations where there isn't a 3 car gap between pumps).

The solution to that particular bottleneck appears to be simple on the face of it - but the details of implementation seem to evade most.

there are now appearing a few where the car is moved to a separate pay station.