Is this possible? Just drop in a 90 transfer box and change the UJ for CVs? Jon
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Is this possible? Just drop in a 90 transfer box and change the UJ for CVs? Jon
Possible - Yes! Practical without the assistance of an entire machine shop - No!
Richard
the gearbox and transfer case basically come in one piece in the series vehicles don't they? so you would probably need to knock up a new bell-housing to fit the "lt77??" gearbox or whatever you have in mind. as i have watched this newsgroup, i have realised that anything is possible in a landrover. from a 6cyl.jaguar engine (percy) to a 6x6 110fc. so it is definitely possible to chuck a defender transfer case into a series vehicle, but wether it would be worth it or not is a different story.
cheers.
sam.
You can't fit CV's to a series axle, the swivels are different. You'd need to fit a defender/range rover front axle.
As for fitting a 90 xfer case, ISTR that the mountings are different, it would probably be easier to fit the entire gearbox and xfer box to your engine.
Alex
Can't is probably a bit strong - it could be done, but you would need a complete machine shop, heat treatment facilities, and access to a wide variety of parts, probably not all Landrover, to do it. It certainly is not practical.
Yes, I agree that would be the only way to do it. The whole exercise, I think, comes under the heading of possible, but not practical. JD
Thnaks for all the replies. I'll just concentrate on getting it back on the road! Jon
It would be a lot easier to weld series spring mounts onto a Range Rover axle, I think. The only problem there being the diffs are a different ratio.
The ideal solution is a SIII Stage 1 V8 front axle, which are like hens teeth.
Alex
This is probably the most practical, but the Range rover axle has the steering arrangement somewhat different, which raises its own problems by interfering with where you want to put the leaf springs, and is also wider track. JD
Bingo!!!!
This is what I've done on Percy too just incase one day I fit a constant
4x4 box, well actually I lie...I wanted the rear axle as it was a Sailsbury with the 3.56 diff, the front Rover type Stage 1 axle was just an added bonus :-)Stick around, one will come up for sale.
Lee D
-- Project Percy - Jaguar 4.2 and Auto in to Series IIa 88 see it @
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On or around Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:51:46 +0100, "Lee_D"
enlightened us thusly:
chap I know has just bought an ex-UN 90 minus engine, box and propshafts (and some other minor bits). were discussing what to put in it, I suggested he buys a rusted Range Rover and uses that as a donor for a V8...
very tidy. Bloke selling it reckoned it was probably 1992, but I decoded the VIN last night and it's build date (assuming you can rely on the right vin being on it) is 83-84, same as mine. Mine's on a C plate though, first registered 1985, on the V5.
I guess he could get he ex-military lot onto looking for its records, if he thinks it's worth it.
He was on about someone had a nissan 6-cylinder engine going cheap, sacrilege I calls it...
do all 90s have a tubular gearbox X-member, BTW, or is that a special military one? 's not the same as the RR/110 ones I've seen, which are rectangular box section.
H'mm our 1990 Rangie has a tubular removeable crossmember gelow the gearbox if thats the one.
Lee D
They started out round, and then went square on 90's - not thta it really matters, they are interchangeable.
Richard
I've found this on the TIC website UJ to CV conversion kits There is no need to source the rare V8 Stage 1 front axle when you want to fit 200 or 300 tdi + gearbox, from a Defender, into your Series Land Rover. We now have a simple but effective way of retaining the permanent 4x4 with the standard Rover front axle by replacing the Universal Joint by a Constant Velocity joint, also found in defenders. This conversion includes; CV joints, special bearings and reinforced half shafts to ensure maximum durability.
It's the only diesel lump I'd condsider, I had a good look around, and listen, to a IIaLWB with a Nissan 6-pot in it, and it was a nice motor. Mind you, I'd rather have a 6-pot petrol
Alex
On or around Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:40:38 +0100, "Lee_D"
enlightened us thusly:
yep. but the one that was on the 110 is box section, as was the one that came with the original 4-speed auto ex-RR, which I had in case it proved to be different, but it wasn't.
strange.
On or around Thu, 25 Sep 2003 10:17:20 +0100, richard.watson enlightened us thusly:
sounds like they did the same on RRs.
On or around Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:19:14 +0100, Alex enlightened us thusly:
well, my advice was if you want to go diesel, get a TDi.
the other possibility would, I suppose, be a VM turbo ex RR.
Mind, I heard of a RR 3.5i 5-speeder for 800 notes... which would make a fine donor vehicle for a serious 90...
On or around Thu, 25 Sep 2003 15:37:21 +0100, "Jon" enlightened us thusly:
if they're supplied by TIC, then Chris Perfect can probably supply 'em.
No, I have plans involving a 3.0 Petrol Fuel Injected Straight Six.
HeHe
Alex
This reminds me of a classic story......... A local bloke had a 6 Cyl Nissan in a Range Rover. It was the muts nuts, as he endlessly told anyone who couldn't run away fast enough. Anyway, as happens, contrary to popular belief, the engine devloped a fault. This was diagnosed as being a duff injector, so a new one was ordered though Nissan UK. Who, unfortunately, could not identify the part. So our man heads for the local (I'll mention no names) diesel specialists. Now these guys can quote numbers for anything diesel from thier heads, but this injector was a mystery. After a lot of searching, though, they found a replacement (at a massive cost, if I remember right!) and got it in. When our man came in to pick it up they, casually of course, questioned him about how his motor ran. After a while, the star of our tale finaly had to admit that the engine was not as good as he'd been saying. Infact, not to out too finer point on it, it was crap. Our specialists were by now rolling round te floor in near terminal merriment - the engine was a standby motor for a lift, and as such was almost exactly the worst choice to go in a road-going vehicle possible, and must have been dire to drive!.
Well, it makes me smile, but perhaps I'va a warped sense of humour...
Richard
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