way way OT - advice on Webspace

Nov 30, 2005 43 Replies

True, but putting vi on a Doze box is rather like sitting your baby in a pool of s**te.

Same as grep on a Doze platform, IMO...

(I don't run Windoze unless it's in a gated environment and unable to do any real damage) :-)

On or around Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:32:58 +0000, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

I've found mozilla/netsacpe composer to be reasonable. Its code is not perfect, but not too bad.

On or around Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:35:45 +0000, Tom Woods enlightened us thusly:

all your vi are belong to us!

On or around Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:37:52 +0000, Mother enlightened us thusly:

I run windows 'cos it's the best compromise for what I want and need the machine to do.

Mind you, I've never seen the need to put vi on it... TBH - my experience of editors was based on the VMS-based TPU editor, which was in fact rather nice, and I found vi inferior. 's a bit like the people who insist on using LaTex for everything. LaTex works if you know how, but it's not a good way of creating documents...

I thought I'd already plugged Composer... B-)

The only way to get "perfect" code is to hand craft or tweak it and even then different browsers render the same "perfect" code differently, so you have to look at the page in different browsers and compromise.

Coming in a bit late to this thread, but I am very suprised that nobody seems to have mentioned any kind of active content management system style websites. I personally use

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butthere's a fair few out there. Look for a web host that provides cpanel web management (check they support PHPwebsite through it first, though most will) and you will have the framework for a fairly complex site up within hours of getting your authentication details. Then you just add content, which is what it is all about, yes?

Hand coding websites is mind-numbingly boring, and prone to programmer error. With phpwebsite you set up your website (through a web interface), then add content to it.... not code. Your code will mostly be limited to adding the odd hyperlink to an external site if you wish. Image management is simple, no faffing about with FTP.

And, to keep everyone happy, your site will be valid XHTML 1.0 and meets the W3C's Web Accessibility Initiative requirements. Give it a try!

Regards

William MacLeod

Yes, I use Zen Internet's service - its great - they have lots of different "flavours" of various components, like your own photogallery, wiki, forum software etc etc.

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Best service in the UK too.

Steve

Steve uttered summat worrerz funny about:

I'm using zen for my connection... must check this lot out. :-)

Not cheap but I have plans for my IP addresses.

Lee D

Zen are excellent. I've got about half a dozen ADSL connections with them, plus a rack in their suite at Telecity (well, on order anyway). It just works... Not the cheapest, but definitely the lowest cost.

Their "employee #3" (Hi Neil !) is helping me rebuild our ambi....

Steve

Can we get a zen discount for 101 owners then ;) I've also got multiple ADSL connections with them.

/me wonders if they're looking for any techies at the moment. They appear to be based about 1000 yards from my front door...

P.

Their tech desk is about to get a sudden step-change in support calls, as soon as a certain set of f*****ts manage to build me some servers....

Seriously, they have ambitious growth plans. They are based in Rochdale, and are planning a new facility there I believe.

If I'd known they offered that service then.... no, best not to think about it.

Ah - that would explain the 2 frontline bobs they're advertising for - Only applicants named "Warren" need apply then :@)

P.

They're always looking for people.

Steve

*fires in an on-spec CV*

P.

Tim Hobbs uttered summat worrerz funny about:

Yeah is Neil busy Wednesday, refitting the manifold with gaskets is a "muther" of a job.

Don't dispare Tim.... plenty more money pits on Ebay , just apply drink ;-)

Lee D

The plans for their new place included a recreation centre - I already suggested a decent workshop with inpection pit....

Steve

pah - I've just changed the nearside headlamp bulb on the Volvo. Take a perfectly normal headlamp, then fit the air cleaner 1/2 inch astern of it. Then route a cable that could have gone anywhere right over the top what little gap there is.

Then put a watertight cap on the back of the headlamp unit, such that it won't actually come out. Unless you drop it, in which case it jams under the air cleaner.

Just for fun, hide the sidelamp just to the left, so after the poor sod has spent 30 minutes trying not to have a Basil Fawlty moment he finds that he has replaced a perfectly serviceable bulb, not the sidelamp that has actually blown.

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