Changing Cars (Dilema)

Dec 22, 2003 15 Replies

Ok, I own a 98 Rover 115 Diesel, it's done a genuine 24k miles and I have every bit of history from day one. The bodywork is almost unblemished and despite the low mileage, its had six full services from new. Under the bonnet it is spotless, I've treated it like a baby. The fuel economy is brilliant 60+MPG, it's cheap tax (1525cc) and insurance.



Apart from tyres and brake pads and a battery, the only money I've spent on it is a suspension top-up. In this time, its failed to start once, when the battery knackered.



As for luxury, well not too much of that in the Rover 115...if only it had power steering!



I'm now thinking about a change to something more upmarket (definitely diesel), however, a decent new diesel car will cost about maybe between £8 to10k and I suppose I'll be lucky to get £1250 for mine. Is it worth it, or should I just stick with the Rover and run it for another 25k three or four years and maybe still get £750 for it?



Any views appreciated!



Cheers all tox


I'm not sure why you're insisting on diesel given the obviously tiny annual mileage you do? Depreciation is far more of a cost than fuel - as you've found by buying a savage depreciator.

Given that you are only doing low mileages - 6-8k a year - I'd rethink the diesel plan. They cost more in the first place, and you won't recover the extra in fuel savings unless you spend enough on fuel. Have you worked out if your present diesel has paid for itself (over a petrol model) yet? As to the Rover, you're in the 'sweet spot' where depreciation is minimal and it's not too likely that you will have major bills, as nothing should have worn out yet. So unless you're desparate for a new car, I'd hang fire for a bit. There's no harm in seeing what your local dealers will offer you as a trade-in, though. If you're looking at a similar car, I'd try the VW Polo (or Skoda/Seat equivalents if you prefer), the new 1.2 petrol and 1.4 diesel engines will give you excellent economy and they are great little cars. My dad has one and loves it.

Unless you are really fed up of the car, keep it! It has suffered most of it's depreciation and you can now enjoy a few years of cheap motoring in a car that from your description is still like new.

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To mirror the other guys' opinions, put it this way - if you were offered your car for £1,250, would you snap it up?

It's not worth replacing it from a financial perspective, and it's almost certainly worth more as a car than as a deposit on a newer machine.

A car like yours is the one I'd look for if we were needing another machine (we're not going to be selling Kermit) - unfortunately, it's just not worth much, so if you changed, you'd be throwing your cash away.

And _don't_ go to a dealership with the above information, they'll fleece you! :(

Indeed Dave, but having had petrol's in the past, I'm quite happy to suffer a little more depreciation, as I think its worth the sacrifice for the reliability. IMHO, diesel is far superior to petrol, given you're not looking for a high performance car.

This said, some of the turbo charged diesels are certainly no slouches.

Thanks for the help... tox

I think you've hit the nail on the head, yep, it's certainly worth more than a deposit and anyone who buys it (even if it is a 115) will certainly be getting a nice motor and for a diesel, not much more than "run in"!

Thanks tox

I doubt there's much in it reliability wise these days given the amount of electronics in both. With a very basic old mechanical diesel design - possibly, although cold starting could be a problem.

Arguably not even run in, at that, heh! :)

Yup, I'd say you were right. Almost all modern diesels these days are controlled as closely as their petrol cousins - the exceptions possibly being the PSA 1.5 and 1.9 donks (the 1.5 being what the Rover 115 has). To quote a good friend of mine, "there's too much funky ship going on here." Too much emission control software and hardware, which needs precise computer control.

The days of putting just about anything into the diesel tank and it running are long gone. :-(

If you are truthfully doing no more than 5,000 miles a year, scan the ads for big huge luxurious gas guzzlers. MPG is not an issue. Fuel bill £875 a year. Lucky you. DaveK.

Nope, just 5k a year. Thinking about it I could pick up a half decent Roller for £10k ;-)

Regards tox

Exactly. Or more economically almost any Jag built over 10 years ago would cost less per annum total than the depreciation on any new car

Hello Mr DervMan,

Why isn't there a turbo diesel Ford KA out yet? Or something with a 1.6 or

2litre engine in it for a bit of fun? My sister bought a KA years ago and I hated them until I had a drive. Quite a bit of room inside for tall people but not easy to get in and out of the back! I sat in the one without a roof and was a bit too tall as my head was above the windscreen!

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I'm working on the Ka TDCi.

And there is a 1.6 out, the Sportka and Streetka have it.

The trouble with fitting a chunky sized donk is cooling, oh and of course marketing. If you want two litre power, Ford punt you towards the Focus, where they can charge you a heck of a lot more (because it's a larger car, heh!).

We've a 2.0 litre ZVH turbocharged conversion with the Klub, you know 240 odd PS, and yes it's quick enough to show up a whole manner of cars, and yes it needs chunky cooling. :)

:) Heh!

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