Citroen diesel C5

Dont use a citroen dealer is the correct answer

Please tell me where else you can get the additive from.

Very. For most people doing "normal" mileages, most of the cost of the additive would've been offset by the lower VED costs. Because this owner is a hypermiler, this hasn't happened. It's their own fault for not doing their homework.

But if you work out the TCO compared to a petrol equivalent, they'll still be well up.

There's a similar thing on the 406. No idea what it costs to top up, but I suspect all PSA crap will use the same juice.

It's similar to HGVs which have to use Adblue to conform to Euro 5. Costs about 1p/mile so comparable costs as well. Difference is we have a tank for it and quite a few service stations now have Adblue pumps.

TBH if the stuff for cars costs a penny a mile then it would push petrols as being the more economical choice by a smidge.

CES autofactors (in Northwich) for one, I'm sure I spotted it sitting on the shelf next to the oils and swarfega last Friday....

Julian.

Different stuff, the citroen stuff is to burn off particulates & regenerate the cat, appararently GSF sell it if you ring them. & Conor drives a truck, they use more of everything.

Handy to know that it's not just a "dealer only" job then. Not been in a factors for a while now.

"Mrcheerful" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

A grand is WAAAAAAY too much for merely refilling the fluid - it's not cheap, sure, but it's not THAT much. I suspect there's either a degree of chinese whispers or more work/parts required.

I think he's forgot the decimal dot - £98 would surely be more realistic? I suppose you've got to do some sort of buggering around to tell the ECU that the reservoir's full again.

I have just had a nose around on the net about this, it seems there are several problems with this system. The fluid is about thirty quid for a refill kit, citroen dealer price is for the full works including changing the DPF, resetting the ecu etc. etc. and is about a thousand quid !!

If you can get the car to france then get it done there, the whole job is about 350 quid !!

The DPF is on an exchange basis and is returned to the factory, there are several different versions.

Eolys is not the same as AdBlue

I am so glad I don't get involved with French cars any longer.

Mrcheerful

"Mrcheerful" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't forget that PSA HDis are a joint venture with Ford...

aaaaaargh

Shop around though, you can get the dpf & the fluid elsewhere.

You change the dpf at the same time, but that's double the last bill I saw for those plus a full service.

Didn't think it was but was trying to make some comparison.

The Adblue system in regards to having a seperate tank, gauges and ability to top up at a service station is far better though.

My 05 Diesel Astra doesn't seem to have any of this crap on it. I wonder why the Froggy engine needs it and others don't?

Julian [makes metal note never to purchase Froggy shit ever again until they stop this effing nonsense!]