I thought a £15 clamp meter from Maplin would be great for diagnosing current drains and voltages on my car but... it turns out the clamp part is only for AC current. Silly me.
Are there any cheap DC clamp meters out there or are they necessarily expensive?
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Duncan Wood
Not really, they're all quite expensive, particularly at low currents, cheapest you'll get one is about £30 from ebay.
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Mark
You won't get a clamp meter that can measure small DC. The one's that can do this are very expensive. You need a cheap digital multimeter from Maplin. See the thread called "Multimeter?" back at the start of Dec. We covered it all there with instructions how to use measure current drain by removing one of the battery terminals. If you still have questions after reading it, then post back here.
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Dave Plowman (News)
Easily done. A normal DVM measures AC and DC current so why not a clamp one?
They are more expensive but more to the point not very accurate. Or at least a general purpose one isn't. Especially since with a car most will be looking to measure very low quiescent drain from the battery. Most will be ok to tell if the starter is taking about the correct current, though.;-)
To accurately measure very low currents the sensor coils need to be very carefully positioned round the conductor - not really possible with general purpose types.
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Harry Bloomfield
Mark W wrote on 27/12/2008 :
They are expensive and accuracy goes down dramatically as the level of current is reduced, so not really much use to measure small discharges which flaten car batteries.
For that you need a meter able to measure with reasonable accuracy in the 10ma range, which even a cheap meter can do providing it is in series with the load. Wire the meter up in series with the battery terminal, a 21 watt lamp, the meter and the cables removed from the battery - with it set on the 2amp range. Initially the current demand could be quite high, but given time it should fall as things shut themselves down into power saving mode - mine takes an hour to do this, but doesn't completely shut everything off until a month after it has been parked undisturbed. Even the bonnet open might draw extra current
- if there is a bonnet sensor, find some way to fool it that the bonnet is closed.
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Conor
Why do you need a clamp meter? A decent AVO can do the job.
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Conor
Seconded. The clock in my Capri shows an 8mA drain so you definitely=20 need something that's quite sensitive.
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Mark
My Sierra takes about 25mA (same as the previous Sierra I had). I would imagine modern cars would take at least that, even if using lower power for each item on standby. All mine has to do is keep the radio memories and the digital clock time. If I disconnect the clock and the radio, I cannot measure any current drain at all. My old MK1 Escort used to draw zilch. Same with my 1980's VW LT van. No drain at all and happily starts after six months without use. Has a big battery for the 6 cly diesel, but not bad considering it has to run six glowplugs for a minute before I can crank it over.
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Mrcheerful
we had this discussion before. A few hundred will buy a suitable dc clamp meter.
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Dave Plowman (News)
A clamp meter would be *very* useful if only they worked. To measure current means disconnecting the battery and inserting a DVM in series with it. But you don't need a 'decent AVO' - even a DVM at under a tenner is likely to better 1% accuracy.
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Mark W
That's exactly it. A meter that could just somehow 'sense' a DC current in a wire without dismantling, that would be great!
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Ian
They exist. I used to use one for work. The bad news is that they are MUCH more expensive than the standard coupled-inductance AC variety.
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Duncan Wood
They're called a dc clamp meter oddly enough. CHeap ones on ebay, good ones come from lem-heme that fluke have bought. They're hall effect though, so the zero error is tricky, normally you have to manually null them.k
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