Zafira gearbox failure

May 26, 2014 35 Replies
57 plate Zafira SRi 1.9CDTi 150 PS. 6-speed manual.

Driving along in steady traffic at about 50-60 mph, odd noises from the gearbox. Difficult to describe, a sort of chuff-chuff-chuff. This changed to a medium-pitched whine in 5th and 6th. Eventually there was a more crunching noise and I lost those two gears. Couldn't select 1st or



2nd. Drove home in 3rd and 4th. Can't select Reverse either.

New gearbox needed? What sort of cost at a main dealer? Can I trust the local independent, who might not have experience of this work?


I understand that a failed dual mass flywheel can take out the gearbox .

Main dealer is likely around 3500 for gearbox, flywheel, clutch and fitting.

So another Zafira for the scrap yard?

Jesus!, why don't they get sued for producing crap that does that, three and a half big ones for design incompetence bet they wouldn't be allowed to get away with that in America!...

I've never quite understood the benefits of a dual mass flywheel on an ordinary family car. Given their apparent disadvantages later on.

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A 2-litre diesel in a fairly light car would be unpleasant without one.

Chris

The Zafira's no lightweight: kerb weight 1613 kg (according to Haynes) and a GVW of 2205 kg (brochure). For comparison, my old 2.0 petrol Cavalier had a kerb weight of around 1100 kg.

and a 1.8 litre diesel sierra was only 1145kg

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But somewhat heavier than, say, a Transit, which would be more the natural home for an old-school oil-burner.

Chris

I think you're proving Chris's point there.

Specialist gearbox place is prob about =A3650, the local independents go= ing =

to buy the gearbox in & they're going to be just as good at changing =

gearboxes as they are at doing clutches.

Almost exactly the same weight.

Well, HJ gives 1430?1590 kg for the Zafira.

Transit is harder to determine due to the huge range, but a medium wheelbase, medium roof panel van is 1800 kg.

Chris

I find that modern dmf diesels are easier to stall than conventional flywheel older ones.

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Mondeos of a certain age certainly are. Do you think it might be a characteristic of the power curve rather than the DMF?

Chris

maybe, but it is noticeably easier to stall a diesel with dmf than it ever used to be. new diesel mondeos are very easy to stall, I had one in the other day, a 12 plate, in traffic I let the clutch in at a tickover and was quite surprised that it just stalled dead. a 55 plate one with a faulty dmf was really horribly easy to stall, even the mot man commented on it, that was moved on.

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Yet another reason to hate the nasty, smelly things. ;-)

Chris

I don't think it's "stalling". I think the ECU cuts fuelling if it decides it's being lugged too hard, probably for emissions reasons.

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