2005 Mustang GT prices

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I wouldn't be bragging about your "real money" at the moment if I were you, Your Monopoly money value is going down each day.

Thanks much. Obviously my Mustang education was sorely lacking.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes

Just remember, as the prices for our good to your land drop... Your products coming over here are costing more... What it means in the end is that I'll buy less from abroad and more from the home shore.

...Ron

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Here in Seattle some of the dealers are trying to add nine thousand dollars to the piece of a six cylinder car. the GT's they are asking 38 grand for.

Meanwhile, in the winter wonderland of New England, GT's can be had for list. Heck, a former co-worker just picked up his new GT on the X-plan. They are dealing on the 6's at some of the larger dealerships. I wonder what the February market will look like?

I currently see the opportunity for a domestic "Gray Market" fulfilling the desires of the impatient and foolhardy. :)

-- John C. '03 Cobra Convt.

OMG George.

That's freaking insane. Do you have ANY cars there that are priced normally?

Thinking on it though, give us an economic breakdown. Price of a typical family home - 3bd. 2 ba- decent neighborhood Average workers annual salary Cost of a gallon of milk. A gallon of gas

I'm just curious is all...maybe I'll learn something.

Kate

| > Where are you that a Mustang is $100K? | > -- | > "Either kill me or take me as I am, | > because I'll be damned if I ever change..." | >

| > The Marquis de Sade | | Sorry, made a misteak, the prices are: | | Make FORD | ModelMUSTANG | SeriesGT | Year2005 | Body typeCoupe | TransmissionAutomatic | Doors2 Door | Price$120,500 CurrencyAUD | Reference CodeST218491 | |

"RSCamaro"

| >I wouldn't be bragging about your "real money" at the moment if I were you, | >Your Monopoly money value is going down each day. | >

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| Just remember, as the prices for our good to your land drop... Your | products coming over here are costing more... What it means in the | end is that I'll buy less from abroad and more from the home shore. | | ...Ron | -- | 68' Camaro RS | 88' Firebird Formula | 00' Mustang GT Vert

Yea... like THAT is gonna happen. Have you looked lately? Nearly everything we have on the shelves say one of three things: Made in China Made in India Hencho en Mexico

When was the last time you called customer service or tech support? Notice the guy or gal had and Indian accent?

The US is in deep sh*t and it will only get worse if we don't stop making it easy for corporations to outsource their labor force.

Kate

Hang around here long rnough John, and you will learn more than you ever needed to know. Maybe even something here and there that's useful! LOL

Kate

For once, living in Canada has its advantages. I was at my local dealership and told him about the $5K markups in the States. He told me that Ontario law prohibited this. Up here, GTs range from $35K to $38K Canadian ($29K to $32K US).

Sounds like the markup may already be there. I paid $31.6K for mine.

John H

On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD, on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes

I only hear the accent with phone spam. I ask where they are calling from and disconnect if I don't like the answer.

You'd make it manditory to keep manufacturing/service/commerce/ etc. jobs on U.S. soil? Sounds rather communistic to me. No offense to you Kate but these companies are out there to make money and if they can make it outside the shores of the U.S. well so be it. To change it I supose you'd have to stop dealing with companies with that type of business practice. I try to buy U.S goods whenever I can.

You are correct that there are jobs that are leaving the U.S. I don't think that we're in trouble though. I'm sure other jobs will be along or made to fill any void left by the ones that left. What's the unemployment rate in the U.S. vs. the rest of the world?

Checking the page at the Dept. of Commerce shows the GDP - in the first 3 quarters of this year the GDP growth rate was an incredible

...Ron

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$AUD 325,000 $US 255,000

$AUD 45,000 $US 35,000

Gallon of milk ?? A litre of milk costs around $AUD 1.35 A gallon cost would be around $AUD 5.40 $US 4.20

Good eye fillet steak is $AUD 35.00 a kilogram about $US 15.00 a pound

A litre of gas is around $AUD 1.10 a litre A US gallon would be around $AUD 4.40 around $US 3.50

Doing the same here in OZ outsourcing their customer service departments to Indian Companies they claim it's cheaper while taking all the profits from the locals,and not giving them back in wages for locals

That's right Kate, take the almighty American Iron Horse, the Harley Davidson

Front forks made in Japan Electrics...made in Japan

Whoa! Are you telling us that a dealer can't sell above MSRP by law? I'll bet that you are wrong. Show me a reference to that supposed Ontario law. Me thinks that the dealer was just trying to give you a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Just another Canuck's opinion.

Seems to me "Buy American" or something to that nature was popular at one time. I think the issue is that production costs have reduced to: a) design b) assembly Actually, both these phases get farmed out as well. But when you outsource to countries that pay lower wages for things like forging, casting, and especially component assembly or machining; you're taking skilled and semi-skilled jobs out of the country. Nonskilled labour costs for final assembly of imported parts greatly reduces the overhead. Companies make a BIGGER profit. How much profit is necessary?

"RSCamaro" wrote | >When was the last time you called customer service or tech support? Notice | >the guy or gal had and Indian accent? | | I only hear the accent with phone spam. I ask where they are calling | from and disconnect if I don't like the answer.

I guess I cannot say the same. There are allot of companies that are based in the US that use outsourcing for their phone support and customer service. The thing that bothers me is that they surely are not paying these people much, but it is less than minimum wage here in the states. Living here in west Tennessee I see allot of people that could do jobs like that. Our particular area is pretty depressed because of companies moving their manufacturing out of the country.

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| >The US is in deep sh*t and it will only get worse if we don't stop making it | >easy for corporations to outsource their labor force. | >

| >Kate | >

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| You'd make it manditory to keep manufacturing/service/commerce/ etc. | jobs on U.S. soil?

No, of courwse not. But I WOULD make it a pain in the ass for them to do it. I would think that they should be encouraged more to stay in the states rather than rewarded for going out of the country. Maybe not force... but STRONGLY encourage them to help support the US and their own consumers.

Sounds rather communistic to me. No offense to | you Kate

None taken. I see your point, and this is after all, just a conversation :-)

but these companies are out there to make money and if they | can make it outside the shores of the U.S. well so be it.

BUT, they are making monumental profits and the people that live in their own country often cannot afford to buy their products because they are not working.

To change | it I supose you'd have to stop dealing with companies with that type | of business practice.

I try, but it's not easy. Like I said.. everything seems to be made out of the country these days.

I try to buy U.S goods whenever I can. Me too. I look at the labels all the time. Look at what is happening with the prce of raw materials. So much is being sent to China that the prices are rising here in the states because we have to compete with the Chinese for our own materials. The materials are bewing used to produce products that are being shipped right back at us and around the world. Now if these items were made here in the US, there would be a much lower jobless rate and the economy would begin to flourish again. I may be wrong, but that's a brief outline of my interpritation of the situation.

| | You are correct that there are jobs that are leaving the U.S. I don't | think that we're in trouble though. I'm sure other jobs will be along | or made to fill any void left by the ones that left. What's the | unemployment rate in the U.S. vs. the rest of the world?

I think it varies from state to state. I know you are going to think I'm nuts, but I never believe these figures. I think it's a bunch of unrealistic BS that they are trying to feed us to make us feel that we are doing ok. If we are doing so well, why is the dollar dropping? Why are so many on public assistance? Oh my goodness... my worry list just goes on and on.

| | Checking the page at the Dept. of Commerce shows the GDP - in the | first 3 quarters of this year the GDP growth rate was an incredible | 4.0%. | | ...Ron

Anyway, nothing we can do about it. So what the hell.

Kate

"Jafo" wrote | > 00' Mustang GT V | | Seems to me "Buy American" or something to that nature was popular at one | time. | I think the issue is that production costs have reduced to: | a) design | b) assembly | Actually, both these phases get farmed out as well. | But when you outsource to countries that pay lower wages for things like | forging, casting, and especially component assembly or machining; you're | taking skilled and semi-skilled jobs out of the country. Nonskilled labour | costs for final assembly of imported parts greatly reduces the overhead. | Companies make a BIGGER profit. How much profit is necessary? | -- | Jafo | '02 GT Black | Not eggzackly stock. |

Well put.

Kate

"George W. Frost" wrote | | Doing the same here in OZ | outsourcing their customer service departments to Indian Companies | they claim it's cheaper | while taking all the profits from the locals,and not giving them back in | wages for locals | | > The US is in deep sh*t and it will only get worse if we don't stop making | it | > easy for corporations to outsource their labor force. | >

| > Kate | >

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| | That's right Kate, take the almighty American Iron Horse, the Harley | Davidson | | Front forks made in Japan | Electrics...made in Japan

No kidding? Now that's just pitiful.

I wonder what the Harley folks think of that.

Kate

| > That's freaking insane. | > Do you have ANY cars there that are priced normally? | >

| > Thinking on it though, give us an economic breakdown. | > Price of a typical family home - 3bd. 2 ba- decent neighborhood | | $AUD 325,000 | $US 255,000 | | > Average workers annual salary | | $AUD 45,000 | $US 35,000 | | > Cost of a gallon of milk. | | Gallon of milk ?? | A litre of milk costs around $AUD 1.35 | A gallon cost would be around $AUD 5.40 | $US 4.20 | | Good eye fillet steak is $AUD 35.00 a kilogram | about $US 15.00 a pound | | > A gallon of gas | | A litre of gas is around $AUD 1.10 a litre | A US gallon would be around $AUD 4.40 | around $US 3.50 | | | >

| > I'm just curious is all...maybe I'll learn something. | >

| > Kate | |