HELP NEEDED, installing windsheild and back window on a 50 champion. with stainless.

You are a bit confusing to me as to what I know about putting windshields in as I have only done Hawks. Get a shop manual cause I think you are off to a wrong start. There is a fellow that frequents here that may advise you better. He'd be doing you a favor to reply so don't count on it. He's too busy to answer e mails even. jimmijim

Thanks, I know its confusing because unlike most gasketed windsheild my most definitly is pulled from the inside out. Everyone i talk to has only done the outside in style. looking at the rear glass i just cut out of a car and the gasket the glass sits on the inside side of the car. Ed

The stainless goes in the gasket first, then install the windshield. You'll never get the stainless in if you put the glass in first.

Chip

I have heard this but then i have to pull the stainless through the window opening? Ed

I think i get what you are saying, installthe stainless on the gasket, then install the gasket, THEN put the glass in last!

Put the gasket on the glass, slip the stainless in the groove, then install the unit in the car. It helps to use 409 or some other kind of cleaner on the gasket to help it slip in.

Chip

Installing the glass and stainless is not a job for those of the faint at heart or novices with weak stomachs. Professional glass installers run and hide from this job... The 'thin' stainless on the 50 Champions is best installed with a cord AFTER the glass and rubber goes in. I use two different sealers on the glass and still have trouble with leaks; repop rubber is not so great. Books have been written about this..and this is a job best left to the people who have done a few. Check around in your area and local chapter and if you are not a member of a local chapter then good friggin' luck... Join SDC and a local chapter! Studebaker George

I've never done a 50, but is it different than the later models? You will never get the stainless in the rubber of a '57 if you try to do it separately.

Chip

Yes, 50 and earlier is different than the later ones. On the later cars you CANNOT put the stainless in AFTER the glass and rubber is in, the stainless goes into the rubber before the whole mess goes in. NOT an easy job and many (most) leave out the stainless or use the rubber without the channel. Studebaker George

Oops...I meant that the EARLIER cars are the ones that people leave the stainless out on or use the rubber without the channel. Studebaker George

Yes, that windshield should go right in using the thin rope method.

I don't know anything about installing glass on the rear window for that year though...

JT

Shop manual (you should get one) says from inside out. If you don't want it to leak you should use the correct bedding compound and sealer. I found this information after a lengthy internet search. I am not at my home computer so I am unable to shorten your search before Saturday. If your windshield rubber has any twists in it or will not lay relatively flat on a bench send it back for a replacement. They can literally fall off the glass when you try to install them or have gaps at the corners. The suppliers are unaware of this so, apparently no one has bothered to complain. Work the stainless in last with much lubricant. I used a soft mallet very carefully to help. I have only replaced back glass with the old gasket. It was a real bear. Seems like it took two or three of us and much patience and cursing.

First, I don't think you can put the one piece windshield in a car that had two separate glasses. Anyway, here is a copy of the instructions that PPG supplied to Studebaker. Getting the stainless in is a monumental task!

I don't even own a 50 but thankfull for you posting this info any way Dwain G. jimmijim

I see you are not dead yet jimmijim. jimmijim

No I'm not yet. jimmijim

WOW, Thanks for your help, Just so that you know.. THE CAR WON ROUND ONE I am going to take these instructions to a professional i found and we are going to redo it. I ended up going with a 2 peice windsheild and this guy made the glass so i don't need the center bar.

and Thanks for the instructions, i tried it but failed i am hoping my glass guy can use these to do it right. At this point i have the rear window in but not properly. Thanks Ed