OT: Bottled Water Tax?

Aug 14, 2007 112 Replies

Why does anybody find it strange that the Dims would want to tax bottled water? The Dims are the guys that gave the "working man" every tax one can name. They are the ones that passed laws to require cars to get a certain number of miles per gallon forcing you into smaller less safe cars, how much water you can use in your toilet, forcing us to import more oil by limiting where we can drill for our own oil, required additives in gas that led to pollution of our drinking water, are subsiding farmers and rich corporations to make ethanol that has 1/3 the energy of gasoline and uses as much energy in it production as it creates and adds to the cost of the food we buy, required you to join a union, restricted your right to bear arms, taxes you to build "intestate highways" is Alaska and Hawaii, are trying to amend the child heath insurance bill so that your taxes would pay for the kids in a family making 60K a year and classify a person as a "kid" up to the age of

25, looking to tax you for "causing global warming" based on bogus science, all the while doing everything they can to weaken the county in the war with the radical Islamic terrorist. No wonder they call people that support that party, DIMS. LOL

mike

And, some local water doesn't need filtering. I wonder what percentage of people actually read the water quality report they receive from their provider.

You have to consider all the candidate's views, not just one. My congressunit, Louise Slaughter, is a Democrat. She has an extremely well balanced take on gun laws, and I own handguns. One of her votes concerned me, but once it was explained, I was able to respect her viewpoint.* Her other views would probably surprise you, considering that she's a Democrat. She's quite a fiscal conservative.

She voted against this, with the understanding that when one detail was fixed, she'd vote for the bill. It passed anyway.

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My brother has a solution.

Britta Water filter and refills them...

You fight idiotic liberals every way you can!!!!

Now tell us about your service, polesmoker

That's what I assumed when he first posted it. But he didn't say that in his initial reply when I questioned it - instead he posted a link with a definition for "post term", so... who knows? Trying to brazen it out & save face without simply admitting that he typed the wrong word (but why??), or playing some sort of a game from the get-go?

Cathy

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Most definitely. People on Palomar Mountain have the best.

Ours is good on paper. Just not on the taste buds. Filtered, it's okay for coffee, but straight-up? No way.

Some people judge their water based on odd criteria. For instance, NYC water must suck because look how dirty cities are. In fact, it's great water from gorgeous remote reservoirs.

All kidding aside, I think you've mentioned her before. I'm not claiming all Dems are against guns, but a disproportionate number certainly are. Some Repubs are, to be fair, against some or all guns. Giuliani scares me in this regard.

I'm finally starting to get a bit anxious about just who the Republicans are going to field next year. It's not looking too organized yet.

The only candidate I know of right now is .

A few years back, some smart person in rec.guns must've had lots of time on his hands, and he posted a list of which candidates had the biggest mouths about gun control around election time, versus which ones actually acted on their words once in office. The disconnect was amusing.

I agree. Some of the worst cities I've visited have great tap water. Others that are quite scenic have bad stuff.

I vaguely remember something about that. Similar stories were published in American Rifleman. Yes, I'm an NRA member, though AR, G&A, etc., are not my mainstay for acquiring knowledge.

Too bad most people don't bother to actually read not only candidate statements, but candidate actions and conduct.

Incidentally, Slaughter's reason for not approving that bill was interesting. They'd gotten feedback from all branches of the military, and the Coast Guard had what she felt was a valid concern. Using Katrina as an example, they said they weren't crazy about a combination of two factors: There's no guarantee that people being loaded onto rescue boats of helicopters are intelligent gun handlers (remember: Half the population is permanently stupid). Pair this with disaster victims being exhausted and edgy, and you have a recipe for disaster. So, the CG wanted to ability to confiscate weapons as people boarded various vehicles, and return them (theoretically) afterward. Slaughter felt this was reasonable (as do I). She wanted the bill modified before approving it. My take was that it needed to be passed, and then amended ASAP, but only with iron-clad guarantees that legally owned weapons would be returned *immediately* after a rescue mission. The NRA added that the name of the person taking the weapons had to be given to the gun owners, so a person could be held directly responsible for any ignorance of the law.

It's still up in the air.

Yes, NYC gets its water from upstate reservoirs.

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happened to catch a program once (several years ago) on how NYC gets its water - can't remember now if it was a general 'underground' sort of explanation deal - all utilities, subways, etc., or just about their water supply, but... the pipes bringing it in are even bigger than I had imagined! Cathy

These all seem like reasonable precautions. In Arizona you can legally carry without a permit as long as the gun is exposed, not concealed. The latter requires a permit, easily obtained with a clear record and a hundred bucks or so. The right-to-carry extends everywhere UNLESS the business owner posts restrictions for his/her establishment, banks, post offices, schools, and anywhere the government doesn't want possibly trigger-happy people carrying. Phoenix is pretty much the only large city prohibiting this carry scheme at all.

Ironically, guess where most violent crime occurs in Arizona?

AFA the CG in those circumstances are concerned, I'd say as long as records and names are kept, this seems prudent. Unfortunately, most governments at any level seem to "lose" guns after they've been confiscated.

That's bizarre. It's based on a false (but macho) assumption: Your hands are always ready to protect your gun, and there's nobody stronger or faster than you.

It's even legal to carry in your car, loaded, as long as it's contained in a holster of any kind.

"An armed society is a polite society." - unknown

That's stupid, too. A car's as easy to open as a refrigerator. Legal doesn't mean smart.

Honestly I can't remember the last time I read about a carjacking in Arizona.

IYO, what WOULD be smart?

I'm talking about cars being broken into, and items stolen from inside the cars. Happens as often as babies being born, in most cities. If someone steals your car radio, chances are they're not going to kill someone with it. I gun, on the other hand....I know idiots who think it's fine to leave them in the car.

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