Toyota Quality ?

Apr 27, 2004 175 Replies

So why did you trade it on a foreskinner? A '99 Durango would have had an A-518 transmission, which is based on the A-727 that debuted in 1956. Its a most thoroughly debugged transmission, reliable as gravity, and not at all prone to the kinds of problems minivan transmissions are. You took a financial bath bath on a vehicle that probably had 200k miles left in it (and even if it didn't that transmission is cheap to fix) and traded it in on an inferior vehicle, IMO.

But even the "bad" ones are better than the import-o-philes would have you believe. I bought an Eagle Vision (Dodge Intrepid) in 1993. At

150,000 miles, the transmission was leaking from an O-ring that required removing the transmission to replace so I had it rebuilt even though it was still working fine. The car has 209,000 miles on it without any other major repairs, still going strong.

My '73 Plymouth is still in daily use at 432,000 miles, and my '66 Dodge made it to >260,000 miles, and will go on much further once I finish rebuilding its engine (which still RUNS fine, but down on power).

In contrast, I've never nursed an Asian-built car past 150k without it suffering massive multiple organ failure- like the whole front suspension falling apart on a Mazda.

Geez, can I have some of what you're smoking?

98 Durango: 5.2 (318) or 5.9 (360) v8 engine. A-518 transmission. 8.25" ring gear or 9.25" ring gear rear axle. We're talking "forever" truck, here. The whole drivetrain is composed of some of the most reliable and thoroughly proven pieces to ever roam the roads. 500k miles is not out of the realm of possibility, and 250k is quite reasonable to EXPECT with proper care.

"Nissan" is a misspelling of "Renault."

:-p

Every warranty has a mileage limit as well as a time limit. I.E. ten years or 50K, WOF. At the US average of 15K a year the warranty runs out in less than seven years. In addition the manufacture knows the buyers on average will replace the vehicle in three to four years in any event, making a vehicle with a ten year warranty a salable item.

mike hunt

dizzy wrote:

Even the buyers of vehicles like the 545i replace them in three years. ;)

mike hunt

dizzy wrote:

Joseph Oberlander wrote in rec.autos.tech

Of course, with VW you get the "dealer service only" taken to all new heights, from what I have heard.

Right, never mind the smart part, once you buy a VW the money goes to the dealer.

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That may be your opinion but currently I drive a 2003 Mustang GT convertible and a 2004 Lincoln LS V8 Sport, hardly boring cars. In February when the new 300 HP 2005 Mustang GT convertible comes out I'll buy one of those, again hardly a boring vehicle. Thank God for the used car buyers, if not for them being willing to buy the cars I no longer want I don't have to spend a lot of money on my new cars. AS long as I can continue to have new vehicles for only a few thousand dollar a year I will continue to buy new every year. All I ever need to do is change oil twice a year and even that if free on the Lincoln. ;)

mike hunt

dizzy wrote:

why stay away from the turbo engines? they're far better than anything else VW makes (for this market, anyway) at the moment. Almost as much power as a VR6 and waaay better fuel economy. I haven't heard of the same oil consumption problems with the 1.8T as I have with the (archaic, early-70's design, and quite frankly underpowered) 2.0 engine either.

Next choice would be a TDI... whoops, that's a turbo as well.

nate

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What's that got to do with what I wrote, top poster?

(top posting corrected)

Stupid right wingers, probably.

The smell is one that is common to all exhuasts, it's just that the unique design of the 4 runner will such air in the back window when it's open. Most people don't get to smell their own tail pipe on the highway :)

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Most european models are american cars now, with smaller, higher reving, more prone to explosion engines that american automakers have never been able to build.

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You should have assumed :) Who in their right mind would own a KIA for

10 years? That's the sort of car you buy while you're waiting for your divorce to finalize or bankruptcy protection to kick in.
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When their tech stocks crashed they all had to go to 3 series...

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Mike you are full of s*it. If I had a 78 year old mechanic I wouldn't doubt he'd miss a few things.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAH

ahaha

AHAHAHAHAHAAHA

You mean the one that blows head gaskets within 30k of new just like the neon it's based on? HAHAHAHAH

Jesus christ man now I've heard everything.

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Uh, no s*it sherlock. It's a scam, I think everyone here knows that.

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Consumer reports can say whatever they want. Two former co-workers and one friend have a PT.

Reliable they ain't.

------------------------------------------------- "I wish they had a delete button on Lexis-Nexis." - John F. Kerry

....and you can't beat that single digit milage.

Ford.

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MikeHunt.... It would be interesting to compare Ford vs Toyota length of ownership.

I also need to inform you that "generators" were replaced by "alternators" (even in Fords) by 1965. LOL

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