1967 beetle won't start

Sep 22, 2008 13 Replies

this one's probably basic...got a 67 bug that won't start, doesn't try turning over at all. battery is showing 13.4 volts, lights go on, but no cranking at all. red light is on, but not the green/yellow one. i have a kill switch on this, not sure how it works, but when it's off the car will crank, but not turn over. coil? starter? ideas? giving me ways to test the ideas would be even better. thanks in advance.



-chris


Crank but not turn over?? Not going to argue about semantics, but you need to clarify this one.

J.

. coil? starter? ideas? giving me ways to test

Just try the starter directly by supplying power to the little wire on the starter solenoid! Can you turn the crankshaft by hand or by wrench? post results!

I am not Speedy though! ;-)

Speedy time.

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I'll attempt to translate. Starter isn't turning.

Any noise from the starter or solonoid ?

Randy

Jumper starter as shown in this sketch:

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Shift in Neutral!!!

If it cranks, you know the starter is good.

Speedy Jim

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when the kill switch is in the postion that it does turn over check to see if your getting power on the positive side of the coil. its the black wire that feeds power and runs from the coil to the top postion of fuse1 onfuse block.

You sould also check points. turn engine so the points are open thne turn ignition to on, with test light you should have power to the molving part of the points.

To the original poster, let it be duly noted that snipped-for-privacy@aol.com is a thieving hack and is speaking through unattributed paraphrases from Muir's idiot manual. HIs name is Mario Gavazzi and he is a conniving snake, having successfully ripped off many customers of their hard earned cash in exchange for his s***ty "restoration" services. Take his advice at your own risk.

Hey buddy, a name change might be a good idea.

turns out it was the ignition switch. thinking i'll just replace it with one from mamotorworks. what's the easiest way to get it keyed to work with my current key? thanks to all who responded.

-c

thanks for posting the solution & congrats to you! ;-)

you might have 2 keys now!

no problem. in that case, maybe i'll try to fix the old one. one of the connectors broke off and has been repaired before, but using some crappy glue or epoxy (from the looks of it). maybe i'll try to grind that off and solder it properly.

-c

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