I was planning on switching in a 1.8l into my 84' Jetta(has 1.7l
I have seen for sale locally an 87' 1.8l Golf engine. The guy is not
home now so I cannot get the engine code.
My questions are:
What fuel system did the 1.8l engine have in the 87' Golf?
Were there different 1.8l's in the 87' Golf?
Would a GX 1.8l go into my car w/o any additional mods?
Would any of them require the knock sensor ignition?
Were any CIS systems put onto engines with knock sensor ignition from
Thanks in advance
Basically you want to know if you can bolt up the engine and will it work.
Yes it should bolt in and yes it should work, but you may have to change the
manifolds and you may have a small issue with the right side engine mount. You
may have to use a bolt and a nut for one spot IIRC.
You could probably convert your 84 to use the FI system from the 87 if you
choose to and do it at a later date. :-)
Note: Fuel injectors might be larger on the 87 engine.
(installed an 86 GTi engine in an 88 Cabriolet)
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way,
when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you have their
shoes. Frieda Norris
I had an 91 GTi engine from a Golf type II built in a type I 89 cabriolet
The air intake is a bit short of space, ( the JH engine had the air intake
on drivers side, the PB on the passengers side).
With a bit of extra enginering this engine is forced up to about 140 hp.
That VAG stuff reminds me of LEGO, allmost everything fits and if it doesn't
fit immediately it can easily be made to fit.
I did basically what you want to do with my 81 1.7L Cis-lambda Cabby when I
put a 1.8 L JH engine in it. Here are some potential problems (nothing that
you can't work around).
1) The 1.8L originally had an oil cooler and a coolant expansion tank. My
1.7 did have either. I got both on ebay (should have gotten them cheaper
from a junkyard). I also needed the water pipe from a 1.8 to route the hoses
to the cooler and expansion tank. Watch out the hoses for the cooler are
real expensive. I think that I had to pay about $40 for them alone.
2) Different size clutch and fly wheel on the 1.8 (210mm if I remember
right). I got a used flywheel for $25 and put in a new clutch (Went ahead
and replaced all the seals at the same time made more)
3) Used the Cis-Lambda fuel system (1.8L JH used the same system) But the JH
had shrouded injectors and needed a vacuum source to cool them. I got used
shrouded injectors and went ahead and put new seals on the injectors and new
seats in the head.
4) The Distributor on the 1.8L took a different shaped electrical plug. (one
was oval and one was square) got right plug from a junkyard.
5) I kept my old coil and the 1.8 had some funky German Distributor cap that
had different style wire connections so I swapped caps (cheap).
6) Different mounting for the A/C compressor on 1.8L so I had to use one
less brace due to clearance for the dip stick, but worked fine.
In all it wasn't too bad. If you go to VWVortex.com they have a whole forum
on engine swaps and also you could probably get all the additional parts
that you need their from the "for sale" forum.
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