Servicing 101s

Standard V8. Drain the sump. Prepare new *correct* filter. Stuff sump plug back in. Swear as old filter is greasy and refuses to move. Chain wrench, screwdriver through the side or whatever to remove it.

You don't want to have the oil filter off for too long as it will eventually drain the pump but a couple of minutes won't hurt. I like prefilling the filter to help things along. Some recommend refilling before swapping the filter - I don't think it makes any difference as all the new oil drains straight into the sump anyway but it may save a few minutes potential drain-time I suppose.

recall being told by someone who claimed

Graham

Ther are differing opinions on this but I usually play safe by changing the oil and filter seperately, not at the same time. Reason is the pump can possibly drain down if you do them both together. If that happens you have to remove the pump cover and pack it with vaseline to prime it. When you change the filter, part fill it with oil first then spin the engine over with coil disconncted until light goes out.

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Sean

Thanks Sean, did seam to recall him mentioning pulling the pump appart and packing it with vaseline, that would explain it.

So which would you change first, the oil or the filter, or doesn't it matter?

Tried to join a while back, for whatever reason, my application was denied. Haven't bothered again.

Graham

Cheers Andy, didn't think it ought to make much odds, but being as my expertise lies with diesel engines, I thought I'd better check. Will probably change one thing at a time as sean suggested, just to play safe. Had recalled the 'expert' telling me if I did it wrong I would need to pull the oil pump appart, hence my hesitation in doing the job, and the equiry.

To be honest, I'm not sure it needs the oil changed, recon as with most landrovers its self changing. Seems to leak enough. Think I will have to add changing a few gaskets and seals to the list of jobs. That way I might slow the leaks down a bit. Currently there isn't a gasket or seal that doesn't leak i don't think.

Graham

On or around Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:30:05 +0000 (UTC), "Graham G" enlightened us thusly:

Mostly, on V8s, I drain the oil, refit the plug, refill it with new oil, then change the filter. Before removing the old filter, while the oil's draining, I fill the new filter with oil, wait for a bit and top it up, wait a bit more and top it up etc., 'til it's full to about 3/4" from the top. I then take it and the filter wrench under the vehicle, unscrew the old one, and immediately put the new one on and tighten it. Never had troubles by this technique.

Incidentally, reading the book of filters, I found that the (Champion) C102 (which is about the most common one in the world) is suitable for the V8 - it's slightly smaller in size than the standard RR/Disco, but the difference is minimal. Others that fit are the C145 (which is what's meant to be on it) and the C150.

Same applies to the 300 TDi and probably the 200 TDi. The slightly different size makes no real odds, provided you change it regularly.

I'll do that, thanks.

Its got a Fram PH8A on it, so I was going to stick with that...?

Cheers

Graham

On or around Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC), "Graham G" enlightened us thusly:

I dunno what fram numbers are. Wotever the book says will be fine, no doubt. My local supplier stocks champion, so that's what it gets, and the alternative filter choices arise from the useless buggers not having the one that fits all the discos, most of the rangies and half of the ordinary landrovers in stock.