I've about had it with the dealer who sold me a 2004 Trailblazer. I
bought it new and found out 30 days later it had been in some sort of
collision before I bought it. The repair was done badly (they even
clear coated over the dealer-installed pin striping). Obviously the
damage was done sometime after the dealer received the vehicle from
The dealer doesn't respond to my calls, The Chevy Assistance Center is
a joke. The dealer talks to them, promises to call me, and never does.
Is there a higher authority in GM I can get to? Everyone knows there
are Zone Manager but so far I haven't found any contact information for
the Chicago Zone Office. Do I have to sue to get their attention?
And GM wonders why they've steadily lost market share for the past 20+
years? LOL. I'd give them the answer but they're too stupid to understand.
Sorry that you're having a problem, but if it were me I'd go down to the
dealer personally. It's hard to ignore someone who is in your office.
FYI GM's market share is actually growing.
GM's market share is in a long term decline.
I've been to the dealership and only had the misfortune of meeting with
the flunky sale manager types. They want to up sell me to a a new
vehicle. *As if I could trust that the next vehicle from them would be
any less damaged than the first.) The owner is never around.
Again as I said I feel for anyone having issues with a new vehicle. But you
are wrong about the market share. I'm a stock holder so I keep pretty close
tabs on their performance. I used to work for General Motors and still have
Here's a link to investors reports.
Here's a link to the only report I need on the stock
Since we're splitting hairs, I guess I should have said that GM's U.S.
market share has been on the decline for decades.
No, what your showing is review (cost of stock). And that's just what I
said, all automakers are reporting losses compared to the last few years.
Their market share is increasing, it's a separate issue.
| FYI GM's market share is actually growing.
That is incorrect. GM's market share has been on the decline for years. Even
the most recent sales numbers show the trend still continues. Where are you
getting information that GM's market share is growing?
| > |
| > | FYI GM's market share is actually growing.
| > |
| > | Brian
| > |
| > |
| > That is incorrect. GM's market share has been on the decline for years.
| > the most recent sales numbers show the trend still continues. Where are
| > getting information that GM's market share is growing?
| As all auto manufactures are posting losses in comparison to the past few
| years. GM is still growing their global market share.
Nice to see GM's *global* market share is up to 15.5% from 15.1%. Perhaps
there is some new light shining at the end of the tunnel. Toyota has been
eating everybody's lunch lately!!
Toyota so called better product is more myth than fact.
Every manufacture make some that are not up to snuff.
As Toyotas begins to sell in the millions rather than in the
hundreds of thousands, more of their bad one are showing up. The
recent slew of cars with engine problems, that lead to a warranty
extension by Toyota,
is an example. Toyota has been over pricing their vehicle by 20%
to 30% against the competition, as well.
A national car magazine, comparing five mid size cars, reached
that conclusion when it rated the Camry fifth, behind two
domestics and two imports, as a buy recommendation because of the
$5,000 higher price.
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:04:00 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I suppose with that extra $5,000.00 they can pay dividends to
shareholders & fix the cars that show up at the dealers with defects
instead of fighting with their customers.
Companies dealing with the end consumer have to realize that the
customers worth keeping aren't expecting perfection. Just decent
service once a product has been purchased.
Trailer parks are full of people who are looking for the lowest price
damn the service or quality. Mercedes tended to get customers for
life by looking after their customers.
No product is 100% perfect every time, we understand that. But be
damned if I'm going to ever go back to a dealer who tells me CV joints
wearing out at 30K is my fault.
Manufactures deal with their dealer it is their dealers that deal
with the buyers not the manufacture. If you have a problem with
your vehicle and the dealer is not taking care of you, find
another dealer who will. If you tend to believe customer
surveys, you will not buy a Toyota. Toyotas dealer network is
constantly at the top of the list for poor customer service.
ALL manufactures have call centers. They are contract centers,
staffed by people that do not even work in the industry, that
have no authority to offer you a solution to you problem,
particularly if the vehicle is off warranty. They take you
complaint, record and categorize it, then send it on to the
DEALER for action or a response. ;)
"James C. Reeves" wrote:
Back to the dealer huh? That sounds like the GM process engineers have
designed a little thing we like to call in the technology business as a
THAT explains a lot too!!!
In my opinion, they're set up to fail if that is the process <sigh>
My experience with Chrysler has been much different than that. The call
center manages (somehow) to make (or get) decisions (from some approval
authority that is outside of the "loop"?) and pass that to the Dealer to
carry out. But that was 15 years ago...maybe it's changed now at Chrysler
Those centers work for more than one manufacture and
many are not even in the US. There is a call center in
Wilkes-Barre Pa that handles calls for both automotive,
appliances manufactures and others. I hear they take calls for
companies like Toyota, GE, Dell, the VA and Fruit-of-Loom
"James C. Reeves" wrote:
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