Supertech full synthetic at walmart is about $14 for 5 gal
jug at walmart. I used to buy mobil whan it was $3/qt,
but at $5-6 it's just a huge ripoff. they have ammortized
their R&D cost, but are riding the brand recognition retaining
I'm in Canada, of course.
Do you know what we now get up here?
A 4.4L jug.
That's right, four point four liters. What the hell is that?
It's not 4 quarts in either system. It's not four-and-a-half in either
system. It's not 5 qts in either system.
It's not a gallon in either, either.
Up here we have an astonishing number of retail items that have their
labels converted directly from Imperial to Metric just to make the
gummint happy: A 28oz soup can is given as 796mL; a pound of butter is
called 454g. A 20oz soda bottle is 591mL.
But where on earth did the oil companies get 4.4L from?
The 4.4L thing only started about a year ago. Prior to that we got
something labeled "3.78L", which was exactly one US gallon. Paint,
windshield washer fluid and a lot of other stuff is still sold in gallon
sizes but is labeled "3.78 L".
The one-gallon size was great for me. Since my engine takes just a
smidge under a gallon, I could just dump the whole thing in and be done
with it. Now I have to drain off a dozen ounces or so and put it
someplace for storage.
W, as they say, TF?
yes, 5 qt. thanks
About $2.80/qt vs $6/qt for Mobil 1.
I guess the savings are really miniscule if you change synth
every 7500 miles and keep the car for 150000 miles it's
just $3.20x4qt x 20 oil changes = 256 bucks saved if the car takes 4
If yours take 3 as mine do than it's just $196 of savings
which is just 1.28% of the original car cost.
Unless you're keeping a car for a million miles there are
hardly any savings. But, then, i'm not sure how much of
an advantage there is of mobil 1 vs a joe schmoe synthetics.
The thing is, oil filters are marginally cheaper @walmart as well
and i want to leave enough of mobil 1 for porsche&bimmerphiles.
it's a socially responsible thing to do :)
The problem that I have with using synthetic rather than a quality dino
oil in engines are the suspension of particulates typically generated by
the combustion process.
Most quality dino lubricants such as Castrol will easily go 7K (miles)
between changes without degradation but I would change the filter one
time during this interval.
OTOH, synthetic in transmissions, differentials etc. can see dramatic
improvement in function and component life.
But, Honda requires ONLY their own product in later models for these
tasks so the options are limited.
That's why I'm stickin' with my ancient '82 & '83 Civics where I can
take advantage of superior lubricants.
????? Synthetic if anything degrades slower than dyno oils
and flushes more crap out of the engine while at it,
so it will look dirtier during at least the first oil change.
Is that what you refer to by "degradation"?
i drive relatively inexpensive cars so this is splitting
beans. On a $30k beemer or a $70k porsche that would make
a ton of a difference.
On Jun 4, 3:22 am, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
This is possible but you get what you pay for.
Can you really believe Walmart oil is as good as Mobil 1 ? who have a
reputation to protect?If it is made by Mobil I would say yes but
In any case I buy MY Mobil1 5w30 gray cap at Walmart for around $23.00
US and change.(4 quarts)
I use the yellow cap at $27.00 US in the winter .
According to the Mobil label its good for 15,000 miles
However having said THAT~!! I change my oil and filter twice a year,
spring and fall, even though Mobil says I can go 15,000 miles with
yellow cap ? I am from the old school and believe that changing oil
gets rid of any contaninants, that dont burn off.
Before synthetic ,I used to change my oil and filter about every 4000
Kilometres especially in the winter .
Yes ,I know, over kill,(dino oil is cheap) but you know what ? I never
ever had a motor problem in my Accords
All I ever did was adjust the valves when necessary
I had 315,000 on my `86 when it was totalled .(by a 72 year old
I drove across Montana in the days of the prima facie speed limit, at
over 110 miles per hour ,(set the cruise) hour after hour, and used it
as my daily commute when I got home.(`86 accord 4 cyl.)
Not one problem
I thnk this is an indication of Honda quality as well as the frequent
Oil is the cheapest maintenance you can do on a car and if you pay US
$20-30,000 for a car do you really want to skimp on oil ?
yes i honestly believe that supertech synth and dyno are plenty good
and having bought mobil 1 for $3/qt 5 years ago i refuse to pay $6/qt.
to me it's just the money wasted on a big fat oil company
ripping me off in every way imaginable after R&D has been
paid for long, long, long time ago.
WalMart has a reputation to protect also. SuperTech is
the walmart brand.
a lot of the crap emds up in synth. it has much better purgatory
effect than dyno. or so i've heard.
nor would you have had any if you were to use a dyno.
extended (for hours) cruising near redline with dyno is no problem.
just watch the oil level at the gas station and top off
if any is gone. been there done that: no problems with dyno.
i do not consider buying supertech synthetic skimping on oil.
it's good enough for a car under $20k.
the motor would outlast other car system even if you use dyno.
synthetic is just for extended periods between the oil changes.
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