'70 Renegade Help

Jan 14, 2004 28 Replies

Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery electrical part mounted on the fire wall?


On 14 Jan 2004 09:23 AM, Steve posted the following:

A picture of the item in question would be helpful.

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Bill, I sent you a picture by email.

Bill, As mentioned in the email, it's not the ballast resistor for the ignition. That's to the left on the firewall (not shown in picture) . It seems to be unique with the Renegade in 1970. I've seen it on two other 1970 Renegades but never on a plain 1970 CJ5. As a possible hint, Renegades came with an amp gauge. Could this have something to do with it? Steve

Bill, The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6 engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.

On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:

Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places. That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.

The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.

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Or post it somewhere and send a link....

I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:

A short list of differences between the Renegade and standard CJs is as follows.

Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier

15"x8" steel wheels Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan Roll bar

I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side mounted spare tire carrier.

I have no way (or don't know how) of posting the picture anywhere. I sent a picture to Bill Hughes. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me. I'll also email you the same picture.

Thanks for posting the picture Bill!

On 15 Jan 2004 06:24 AM, Steve posted the following:

I suspect you are right, thanks.

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Hmmm.....

Have you tried a multimeter on it to see what it might do?

What color are the wires going to it and is the one disconnected all the time with no ill effects?

Can you find the other end of the 'brown'? wire if that's the color?

I see a mess of 'custom' wiring.... That can mean duplicate parts.

The ammeter doesn't use a resistor.

The wipers use a circuit breaker....

Mike

Steve wrote:

Ahh, brown wire it looks like.

Alternator excite wire maybe. Could be they upgraded from a generator to an alternator right around then and the excite for the alternator needed a resistor on it?

Just a guess.....

Mike

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