£6,000 for a 2a - late april fools ?

For the benefit of those of us who don't know, can someone explain very simply the requirements for tax exemption?

Other than the need to be first registered/used before some date in

All this talk of points/modification (as if one was trying to get a vehicle re-registered) is, I suspect, irrelevant.

There are certainly cases where early registrations have been obtained by dubious means and modifications made in ways which didn't come about as a result of work being carried out on a pre-1971 vehicle but ...... if one owns a genuine pre-1971 vehicle , and has a 'live' registration for it and then proceeds to update it by fitting a V8, adding coil springs etc. does it then cease to be exempt?

Suprise suprise it didnt sell - i now feel somewhat sorry for the bloke as he's probably been ripped by someone as i can't for the life of me see where his =A330,000 has been spent.

Suprise suprise it didnt sell - i now feel somewhat sorry for the bloke as he's probably been ripped by someone as i can't for the life of me see where his £30,000 has been spent.

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I imagine that most of the cash has gone as labour charges to top priced specialist mechanics.

Have a read of......

Richard

The info for pre january 1973 historic vehicles is on the DVLA website if you can find it! When they look at a rebuilt car there are requirements for original components or oem replacements if you have enough correct bits then the car is deemed to be Historic and awarded tax free status . the points part for altered vehicles is at

Thanks Richard, but that's not quite what I'm trying to clarify.

Those pages seem to relate to registering/re-registering a vehicle. The situation that I'm attempting to understand is the case of a vehicle that is already registered. As such the only need then is no tax it - and that includes cases of exemption from tax.

The DVLA pages state: "The following are exempt from paying vehicle tax....

Old vehicles constructed before 1 January 1973 (historic vehicles)

All vehicles except buses and lorries used commercially, that were constructed before 1 January 1973 may tax in the 'historic vehicle' tax class."

(I got the beginning of exemption dates wrong, earlier).

I can see nothing there saying anything about modifications etc.. One conclusion that you can make from that is that once registered you can modify away as you like (subject to all the usual caveats) and provided that original construction is before 1973 can claim tax exemption also. There's nothing that I can see that can 'undo' your eligibility to tax exemption provided that your registration is continuous.

Do anyone know otherwise?

Has that fuckfuddle ever had sex?

As I understand it, if you change you chassis for any other one that is not a direct replacement for the original then the id of the vehicle becomes that of the chassis, in effect. Also, if you highly modify the vehicle generally and lose too many points then the vehcile effectively get's re-registered, starting from when that is done. So, in LR land, unless you have a rare 1972 Range Rover Chassis to hand, you cannot have a V8 coil sprung Series motor. You can have a V8 Auto with leafs, you can have a 2.25 Petrol Auto Coiler (which would be "interesting"), but you can't have the full monty. It's very cleverly worked out to stop you going out and buying brand new 90, sticking a

If you serach this group you'll find this topic has been done to death dozens of times!

Richard

That should be tax exempt above, oops.

Richard

On or around 19 Apr 2007 03:27:24 -0700, Sean enlightened us thusly:

FFS. just 'cos you spent 30K on it, doesn't make it worth any more.

On or around Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:31:13 GMT, "Derek" enlightened us thusly:

body isn't relevant. Chassis need to be unmodified, IIRC: original or replacement.

"Austin Shackles" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Isn't there a requirement for a certain proportion of the vehicle to be original?

On or around 19 Apr 2007 12:29:39 -0700, Sean enlightened us thusly:

didn't Beramach build a new series III from parts as a stunt a bit back? ISTR they reckoned that was over 30K.

why does everybody always pick on this point when we see things on ebay?

Do you enjoy paying your tax and keeping within every regulation so much that you would never ever even consider doing it yourself ;-)

I know i dont want that £200/year (or whatever it is now) that I pay to Gordon.....

Nothing on your vehicle breaks any rules whatsoever? every single mod however small is declared to your insurance company? you never break any speed limits or the higway code? There is nothing broken on your vehicle that would cause it to fail an MOT or inspection if done right now?

I cant imagine there are that many of us who could say yes to all of those, so leave it be!

(im not aiming this at you personally Richard but this point is always made and i cant see why!)

good luck to him!

Ebay is full of people who pay too much so he might get lucky!

(I've just seen a 101 sell for around 7-8k more than i value mine at!)

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:28:03 +0100, Tom Woods

I think there is a difference between "sneaking one past Gordon" and deliberately trying to inflate a sale price by false advertising.

Perhaps "Currently Tax Exempt, but if anyone ever was to inspect it, it might lose it's TE status pretty sharpish" would have been a more honest description.

;-)

David

On or around Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:21:20 GMT, "William Black" enlightened us thusly:

yes. But original chassis modified to take coil springs don't count. I've been looking into this, WRT the project vehicle, and to avoid SVO and Q-plates and such the chassis needs to be original or replacement and unmodified. You also need other things to be original, but you can't do it at all without the chassis.

This is why the technically better solution of modifying the transit monocoque to allow mounting the LR running gear is not gonna happen - would require SVO and that's a load of hassle. So the chassis and suspension and drivetrain etc. will be standard 110 (except probably the front dampers) and the mods to put it together will be on the body.

In news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Austin Shackles wibbled :

You sure Austin or are you planning to run it veggie? Straight Vegetable Oil vs Special/Single Vehicle Approval/Assessment

It's because if there is anything wrong with the vehicle details insurers may well refuse to pay out (justifiably) as the vehicle is not what it claims. Whatever one feels about the road tax, people should be aware they run a very real risk of finishing up with a massive (£300,000 upwards) liability if things go wrong.

Richard