S3 Electrical Meltdown

On Saturday I took my Dad and Sister for a day green laning in the Lake District in my S3 109. They were both new to off road driving but took to it very well. All had gone well until the last couple of miles of trail when smoke poured from dash and from under the bonnet.

The fire extinguisher that I have fitted to the dash had been stolen on the previous Tuesday and an old one that I had in the rear locker would not discharge.

Fortunately, once the ignition was turned off things started to cool off and after a couple of minutes there was no more smoke.

I'm no electrician (or mechanic for that matter) but it appears that the pos cable to the output connector on the dash (what are these for?) had become disconnected and fallen on to the neg cable. The neg cable had melted though the loom right the way to where it was earthed on the bulkhead

We managed to separate most of the burnt cables, remove the most of the pos cable and continue to the main road.

We spent the rest of the journey looking at each other and asking "can you smell something"

So after all the excitement I've got a S3 that requires a new loom my question are

  1. Where can you get new one or do you have to make them up yourself

  1. How much do they cost?

  2. I don't want to do this job myself, How long do you think it might to take for a land rover specialist to do the job. I think he charges about £20 per hour which is reasonable but it starts to get expensive if there's 2 days work involved.
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Martin (Wirral, UK)
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Martin (Wirral, UK)

They are for setting light to your dash. We dont know either. Paul had a dash fire in Baby Blue just before we met. Made a right ol mess. Best remove those cables entirely as they are *unfused*.

Beth

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Beth Clarke

autosparks are quite good, and can be found at

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had a loom from them for the S3 Lightweight that is just about finishedand ready for sale. Good quality stuff, and came with just abouteverything,.

depends on which bits you need. I do notice that their prices have gone up slightly since I bought the loom though, but I found it a lot simpler than trying to make one

nothing that half a day with the wiring diagram could not solve!

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Simon Isaacs

The terminals are there as test points, they can also be used to charge the battery. They are connected directly to the starter solenoid terminal, totally unfused. In my opinion they dangerous. Mind you, the amount of unfused electrics on Series vehicles is abominable. On IIA's the headlights are totally unfused, and the interior light is fused on its own, with a 30Amp fuse for a 21w bulb.

There are several companies offering complete wiring looms for series vehicles, I believe some will also modify a standard loom for your purposes. As for cost I don't know. I have just built a complete wiring loom for a SIIa, (highly modified with 8 fuses - everything is fused this time) Although it's not a particularly difficult task, it can be quite time-consuming in getting the wiring right, and putting all the appropriate connectors on, it's not a job I would reccomend to someone who isn't fully sure of thier electrical abilities.

S3's are reasonably simple on wiring, but TBH I've no idea how long it would take to replace the loom, but less than 1/2day would surprise me. Ask around.

Alex

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Alex

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