Frontera

In news:%iRHf.76$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net, dave wrote something quite bizarre, possibly in an effort to confuddle the world. It went like so;

The standard faults on a Frontera are the bits between the front and rear bumper.

Don't buy one, they're *Shite*

dave ( snipped-for-privacy@virgin.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Very easy.

Just drive it to the local scrappy. They'll do the rest.

You are too generous, they're not that good. But if you still feel the need, have a drive in one. If you like the sensation of speeding along in a small powerboat bouncing over three foot waves, have a ride in the back. DaveK.

And don't even think about considering pondering whether to let the thought of a Landwind (Chinese Frontera clone) cross your mind...

worth looking at the zero score in crash test for the 'jiangling landwind'

"Just look at how the steering column together with the air bag smashes into your face. Renders the air bag totally useless. your neck would definitely have snapped."

mrcheerful

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Scary. Lowest ever score in crash test!

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With a video of exactly that happening here...

Although the phrase "This car seems to belong in the 1990s in terms of engineering,?

doesn't imply most of our cars are any better.

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Yeah, I wondered about that. The only rather tortured explanation for it I can imagine is that it's typical of the cars that were ending their life in the 90s and had safety features bolted on that weren't appropriate.

Or some such cobblers.

Whatever - I don't want a ride in one! Wonder if they tip over as well as a Frontera.

"Pete M" wrote in message news:43eff807$ snipped-for-privacy@usenet.zapto.org...

you could'nt have summed it up better Pete, they should have been scrapped at the design stage !

Don't fronteras come with an Isuzu engine as standard?

Well noone told me how easy diy repairs were did they. I guess they are not liked. What about swb Pajeros, same question.

Dave

In news:u99If.30031$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe4-win.ntli.net, dave wrote something quite bizarre, possibly in an effort to confuddle the world. It went like so;

SWB Pajeros aren't bad, the diseasel engine is very simple but it's not the best.

I have a tame mechanic who handed in his notice today, suprisingly enough, at a Mitsubishi dealership because he's sick and tired of doing the cylinder heads on the diesel engines. Reckons they're easy to work on, but they're not the best. He's buggered off to work at a Porsche / Mercedes specialist instead.

That being said, IME most dealership mechanics seem to have a dim view of the stuff they're working on. It's rare to know a dealer "tech" who doesn't know all the common faults on the models they see the most. Then again, if they don't know what does wrong I don't take my cars to them so they can learn.... let someone else do that..

Get a Honda CRV.

Mr Honda seems to engineer his cars to be worked on easily. Sadly, their Honda UK customer relations aren't, in my view, so well designed.

Brian.

dave ( snipped-for-privacy@virgin.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

If it's a Pajero, it's a grey import. UK cars were Shoguns.

Seeing as the OP is looking at "older" 4x4s, he's hardly going to afford a CRV.

I've owned & experienced most models of 4x4 as a caravanner. One make stands above the rest to me - Toyota. My old HJ60 Landcruiser hauled _two_ bogged-down Patrols out of the mud at the same time. While my Hilux Surf (4Runner) rescued a Disco stuck up to it's axles with the caravan still attached.

Engines go on forever and the build quality is better than any others I've owned (and that includes Disco & Shogun).

Pajero means wanker in Portugese or somesuch language.

I've always considered it vaguely appropriate.

Richard

I can recall about the time they first appeared, Top Gear gave the results of one of those surveys of new cars that appear annually (I can't recall who does them). The Frontera did worse in terms of customer satisfaction than the Lada Riva I was driving at the time. I felt rather smug for a while.

But you still had a Lada... ;-)