Jupiter Tyres

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Lin Chung" saying something like:

Utter bollocks. Any safe and steady driver will eventually have to stamp hard on the brakes or swerve to avoid somebody or something. In those circumstances he/she/it would want to know the tyres the garage have fitted are not going to break traction at the slightest provocation.

Imo, the OP was stitched up by the dealer, both in the matter of price and in the matter of safety. Speaking for myself, I always fit budget tyres to my SOCs, but I take that decision knowingly and am aware of the characteristics of the tyres; I avoid total gripless crap.

Price does not mean a better or safer tyre, yes some cheap tyres are awful but some of the most expensive are out performed by much cheaper tyres. Take a popular size like 205/40/17 , the cost of the tyres range from £27 to £85 ( That's cost excluding vat). The £85 is Michelin pilot sport and if you ever have to slam on the brakes to avoid killing some one you can do so knowing that if you had spent less you would have stopped in a shorter distance!, Goodyear eagle F1 will out brake anything and cost's £69 , Toyo Proxes T1-S will stop you better than a Michelin and costs £42.50 .

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:35:56 -0000, Fred >> to stop quickly. Then you wish you'd not been so pikey and paid for

You've missed the word new out, doing an emergency stop on 40000m old proxies would be interesting to say the least.

The point is price!, based on price the more you spend on a tyre does not equate to a safer tyre. Now your point about wear is a whole new can of worms!, [1] If you are faced with paying a lot of money for a set of tyres you are more likely to run the tyres to the point where you *have* to change them instead of the point where you *should*change them. The law at the moment say that point is 1.6 mm ( which is going to be changed to 3mm) , human nature means that most people only change tyres when they are bald because of the cost of doing so.

It depends how often they get there though. The poin is cost

Personally I find tyres cheap compared with everything else, even on the bicycle.

I told you it was a can of worm! The main reason that Michelin are renowned for good wear/mileage is because the drivers who do the most mileage say so,now the people who do the most mileage achieve this by using motorways which is kind on tyres ( no sharp bends ,not much braking/acceleration but loads of miles covered) . They may cover 20000+ miles a year and because they do they remember and exagerate there annual mileage( if you drive 20000 Mls a year when you're down the pub thats 30000) , and thats ( coupled with the fact that the reps who cover the most mileage have agency cards for ATS ( owned by Michelin)) is where the legend of Michelin mileage came from. Now next time you see a Taxis ( they do a lot of town/city driving like most normall drivers) look at the brand of tyres they are using, you won't find many using Michelin. Now if they are cost effective why don't Taxis use them, is it because they are wastefull and enjoy crashing?, or may be it's because the most expensive tyres are not the best value or safest.

Fred (Don' snipped-for-privacy@hidden.co.us) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Strange how the replacement brand new Michelins that went on as soon as payday arrived were fine, then, isn't it?

Well I've tried both & the Goodyears did over twice the mileage to 3mm on the same car.

Now next time you see a

...and of course taxi drivers are renowned for their safe and sensible attitude to motoring! That's why, around here, spot checks showed that 1 in 4 would fail an MOT. (Many of the faults were tyre defects BTW). That compares to around 1 in 10 of private vehicles checked.

Chris

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Tim S Kemp" saying something like:

They don't.

The major car makers are buying tyres in under extremely advantageous conditions.

Fred they are cost effective why don't Taxis use them, is it because they

My neighbour drives a taxi, he tells me they buy the cheapest due to the number of puntures they pick up with all the driving around council estates and picking up debris.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:28:06 -0000, "Fred" the legend of Michelin mileage came from. Now next time you see a Taxis (

because most taxi drivers spend as little as possible on maintenance, witness the condition of my Omega when I bought it.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Chris Bolus saying something like:

Yep. 60,000 miles was not unknown on the ZX series.