We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Ian Stirling saying something like:
Not so far as I am aware - just cheapness on the makers' parts. You can add another if you want.
moray (mtb_hyphen snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
If reversing lamps are present, but in the wrong place or too bright, C&U can indeed be enforced.
There's nothing in C&U requiring them to be present.
adder1969 ( snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
First registered after 1/4/80.
For older cars, if it's present, it must work.
Grimly Curmudgeon ( snipped-for-privacy@REMOVEgmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
But it must be symmetrical with the other one - as must the fog light.
Is there an online copy of the actual regulations anywhere? I'm not finding it.
Cheapskate includes quite a lot of Japanese stuff and the new Golf...
Ian Stirling ( snipped-for-privacy@mauve.demon.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Not of C&U as a whole, but the RVLR (Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations)
1989, (together with 1994, 1996 and 2005 amendments) which form part of the C&U family are online.Doki ( snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Correct, it does.
Yes?
From the first, "no flashing lights" (with logical exceptions, decorative ones are right out).
'must be symmetrical' ... Where?
In the regulation I see 'no more than two, to the rear, with an approval mark, white, with not more than 24W per light' (schedule 14 of the first link) There is no requirement I can see on position.
Ian Stirling ( snipped-for-privacy@mauve.demon.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
For reversing lights, you're right. My apologies.
For rear fogs :-
I now see a blanket exemption for requiring standards on lamps, as long as they meet the standard, so that's not a problem - as the only real requirement for an added reversing light are that it's white.
I saw assorted 'matched pair', and 'pair' used through the document.
I diddn't see any actual requirement that they be symmetricly arranged about the vehicle. It could not unreasonably be taken to mean identical lamps.
There is a (potentially fallacious) argument that it means you can still see the brakelights.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Chris Whelan saying something like:
Those who reverse regularly and really need to see what's going on at the back will ignore that particular piece of nonsense and fit a 55W lamp. cf truckers, recovery vehicle drivers, etc.
They're not reversing lights though, they're on a seperate switch.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Duncan Wood" saying something like:
Of course, that's the story. :)
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