Fiat Sceicento Sporting

I suppose technically a saloon should be stiffer than a hatch, but, these days, there's probably little difference as most saloons now come with proper folding rear seats.

No, the car manufacturers have it exactly right. Consumer led stupidity indicates that the more speakers something has, the better it must be.

Rear platform speakers are not necessary, the perfect setup is good front speakers and some form of bass (be that a sub in the boot or wherever).

And f*ck the rear seat passengers.

Damn straight - they could walk :)

Only if they're cute.

Yes, lets following what everyone else does. Lets

Or no sense.

Where do you live?

I'm not a frequent poster.

We own an Alfa (156 JTD) and never had any problems. It's great.

However, just thinking about it, as the 2.0 Focus is only insurance group 9, it could make a rather nice a 2nd hand buy in a couple of years (considering my young driver insurance status).

The Cardiff 'commuter belt' in South Wales.

Aye, and the back - some of us bother to carry other people around in our cars, you see.

That aside, it is of no surprise you've leapt to the defence of this particular one, is it...

HTH

-- JackH

What, as in pick and choose whatever you like, from the open car market, and not necessarily insist what you buy is gods own car in its class?

Mmkay

-- JackH

I'll leave the obvious gags to others...

Speakers in front of you are what count. By my reckoning, a speaker that's in front of the driver is still in front of the people in the rear seats....

So the rear seat passengers can barely hear it whilst those in the front are deafened.

There's many uses for rear speakers - if I'm holding a conversation with a passenger, I tend to fade the radio to the rear so I can have it on as 'ambient' sound without it disrupting conversation.

That'll never catch on...

Aye you're right. But if we kinda wanted to carry people in the back of our car for more than occasional use... we wouldn't have a city car...

:)

Eh? I've always just lowered the volume...

Like you said, f*ck 'em.

Anyone in the back is a freeloader. If they don't like it, there's a public transport system.

...then it would be preferential for your passenger to have the stereo on loud to drown you out ?

That's because you only have front speakers.

In this one, yes. But I drive four up a lot, just not in the Ka.

No, it's because (a) it's been fiddly to adjust the fade, and (b) when I have a conversation with somebody else in the car, I tend to involve those in the rear seat too.