I finally bought one.....

I thought that but couldn't remember so i said nothing :) I think he meant

-- Dan

Well whatever... no-one is in here trying to tell him that the 806, whatever, is a fantastic driving machine... ;-)

-- JackH

Better than a Zafira tho ;)

-- Dan

Just because its a rev-monster of an engine doesnt mean its strained! Its a fanrastically designed engine. And it doesnt need a turbo to hike up the power like all volvos do!

The E30 318is is supposed to be a brilliant thrashmeister, too, with half sensible economy when you're not revving the arse off it.

In fact had I thought before, I'd have recommended one of these to SteveH before he'd gone and saddled himself with yet another eytie special - if anything those are holding their, if not gaining in, value these days, not depreciating, they're respected and revered that much.

-- JackH

Heh.

Not in the economy and ease of creating a vast swarthe of load space stakes though... and the Zafira will remain quite firm in value for long after most

I don't want an MPV really, but given family requirements and forthcoming work requirements, one of those seems to make more sense than having a van and a car when you take into account the cost of insuring and taxing two motors etc.

Anyway, then Berlingo Multispace HDi is the current favourite, if I can find one cheap enough.

-- JackH

The original comment was not what would be most fun but that Volvos were boring. Comparing like to like (and 3 series was the comparison) I am convinced they are not. A 106 Rallye is not a comparable vehicle to the S60 / 3 series argument.

Taking it to extremes, I reckon a Ferrari 360 would be great over that route.

define bloaty bus then? Are you meaning big and wallowy???? S60 is not wallowy.

wooops - for 806 read 607 and a side comment of WTF is peugeot's naming system all about anyway at least BMW make sense.

Oh yeahhhh... And remember the BMW Nikasil engine debacle....

Rain Sensitive Windows?

LOL - There's all that safety stuff too - hats off to Jaguar for the new XJ

LOL - driven the Fiat alternative (Ulyssee) if it's anywhere near as exciting and involving as that then it's crap.

Nah, i think i'd have more fun in the 106 cos i'd dare push it harder :) It wouldn't matter as much if i stacked it (assuming speeds were low and i'd suffer no permanent injury). Whereas even if i was loaded i'd be pissed if i binned my ferrari, they're all individually numbered and stuff aren't they?

-- Dan

SteveH waffled on in a quite bewildering manner to produce...

Bloody hell Steve, well done! A proper Alfa at last ;-)

Pete M

Just because it's got a turbo doesn't mean it's badly designed or needs it, there's plenty of non-turbo 5 cyl volvos around. Turbo gives us the mid- range wallop that those M cars don't have (qualifying note to that statement - the current M3 is a beast of a motor, but thing how nice it would be with a turbocharger...)

That's the first of the 16 valve BMWs isn't it? I remember them feeling mega quick (was the first beemer I drove, was used to Ladas / Rovers before that) and making a great noise. Bit tail light though. But yes, great engine for its time.

Excellent car, and plenty of minters still about

-- JackH

Get the Stig to drive one round the Top Gear test track, and see how it compared to the latest M3 ;-)

-- JackH

The one where the majority of cars were sorted free of charge, even after they were outside of their warranty period?

-- JackH

I can't say they're top of my shopping list - if I were to go for something of that vintage, it would almost certainly be a Galalhambran TDi.

-- JackH