LPG

DervMan made the world a better place for us by saying..

Which is of course, only right. Diesels are still nasty orrible things, even though my brother will have a new 530d in a week or three. (Which of course I'll suffer for long distance motorway munching if I'm skint)

Mmm, diesel smoke.. lovely.

All this from a man who drives a 4.6 V8 limo thing that does a truly superb

Length is irrelevant, Buses are shit, hence people dislike them. Cars are good, hence people like them.

Everytime I've had to use public transport to get to work in the last year or so (on the occasion that my car has been unavailable) it was utter toss.

Six is a ridiculous figure for walking pace. I had a puncture last week on the way home from work (biking it), trip computer was alternating between 3.5 and 4 miles per hour.

:)

So y'all think I've made a miscalculation? Let me check my route!

That is the most charitable way of looking at it. (slight differences in both timing and distance might make it a credible speed).

A 10 minute mile is a reasonable jogging speed. For someone new to running as an adult it takes some effort and training to be able to do that speed for a full hour.

It would be more sensible to tax beef. To feed yourself on beans produces something like 10x less methane than feeding yourself with cow.

Tax breaks could be given to people to people who set light to their farts.

Not many people would claim that public transport is luxury travel, but I don't believe journey length is irrelevant. It certainly isn't to me. Are you really saying you would walk rather than take a bus regardless of the distance?

But you did use it rather than walk to work. If journey length is irrelevant, what else was it that persuaded you to repeatedly use a service that was utter toss?

I thought it was beef cattle farting that was stripping the Ozone layer, not farting after eating beef cattle?

Huh ?

The longer the journey, the LESS likely you'd be to use public transport !

It's 9 miles to my place of work - so I do 18 miles per day in the TI. I get an average of 240 miles from my £40 tank of fuel, so I can make about 13 days of work from a tank. This means my daily commute costs me about £3. It takes me 10-15 minutes, depending on traffic.

I would love to get the bus. But the bus leaves EVERY TWO HOURS, costs MORE than £3 EACH WAY, and takes JUST UNDER ONE HOUR !!!!

Obviously it depends where you live, but to suggest anyone in my village (the second largest village in the country, with a population of a few thousand people) would use anything other than their cars to travel, is loonacy.

No - he'd rather use his car !

Er, his car was unavailable.

Exactly his point. If people only ate beans, then there would be no beef cattle.

However, to become a vegetarian is a ridiculous concept ! Human beings are supposed to eat meat !

Is that the one where you have to mince along, and always make sure that one part of one foot or another is always in contact with the ground?

I can see premature hip failure being a danger in that one.

Pete.

It's actually Termites!

Cows are a close 2nd IIRC.

Methane is a very nasty greenhouse gas.

Pete.

The downside is that beans have 10x less taste than cow :-)

Pete.

Wasn't it you that said "sooner walk" ? (anyway, forgetting the earlier thread, as you appear to have) Australia? Paris? any 100+ mile journey where one end is London at peak periods?

There are commuter buses that do a lot better than that.

as for "sooner walk". So you'd prefer to walk for 3-4 days solid than sit on a bus for a few hours?

"supposed to" ? is there a big book that fell out the sky that says this?

If you are going to start all the silly biological arguments you might also conclude that its ridiculous for us to eat quite as much meat as we do.

BTW - I have eaten all the pies.

So cycle, or use a "leccie bike

I doubt it would let me get away with cycling - and i dunno what i 'leccie bike is, and i like driving my car too much anyway so its a moot point :) Although, i don't commute to Uni, i walk as its only 15 mins.