whats the modern(ish) equivilant

He's right though, Mi16 into 106 is bint of a job.

If you look at it like that, they're all pointless. What about a E36

325/328/330 (was there one?), or E34 530 engine into an E30. The newer engines make more power, no beemer engines are tunable for small cash anyway.

So, bar the 3 performance models then...

Now you see, this is a common misconception. But the headgaskets don't go unless you up the boost and don't uprate the cooling etc to compensate. Would probably be the same on any car, its just it commonly happens on R5's because they're cheap, and its easy for stupid people to do.

To be fair to the french tin can mine only ate one headgasket while I had it and was circa 200bhp. It was fun unless there was water on the ground in which case it opted not toget traction at the slightest hint of boost.

Mason

Well for a start they arn't straight swaps as far as I know and we wern't talking about E34's.

I can't find a table listing the power of the engines :( best i could find was a source site on the actual engines:

which isnt so clear as to what engines went were!

Well... yes? That is the point I was trying to make, he was being very unspecific.

Heh, i'm agreeing with you here :) Just thought i chuck 5 series in for a laugh :D

Again, i was agreeing :)

*cough*bollocks*cough*

It should have been a 360 (unless somone was a bit silly). I think I've posted a link to a vid of one, totally mental. Will have to try and find it.

It probably was, they look quite similar, i do recall the handling appeared to rather exciting :)

"And a stand alone fuel management system - not a bad way to spend $10,000"

:)

As I said.

Bollocks.

Absolute, total, s**te.

Supercharged Chevy LS1 into 1980 Ford Granada?

Um, you *can* get 200 bhp from a 5 Turbot.

Not a *reliable* 200 bhp by any means, but it can be done. Just.

Although, the 5 chassis has industry standard ploblems trying to put 200 horseys down. Not based on a Golf, y'see... ;-)

Oh, I know you can.

I'm just wondering how it's done whilst leaving the turbo at 'almost standard boost'.

Um, well, those figures are facts. I don't think not agreeing is valid :)

Like what ?

Pug 205, Golf GTi, Ford XR2 / XR3i / RSTurbo - all had had teeny power outputs, and that is precisely *why* the engine swaps happened.

The number of ~200bhp hot hatches around back then was approximately zero.

"Too much" ?

The more the better ! It's that same technology that allows us to have

200bhp engines in safe, gadget-laden cars, and still remain compliant with today's strict emissions legislation.

Technology is your friend ! If we were all still using shitty joke carbs and chokes, then today's cars would struggle to make more than about 10bhp without flouting the legislation !

To convert and insure an engine swap car costs *MORE* than buying a higher powered car right off the bat. Nobody swaps an engine for financial reasons - that's just loonacy !

I don't get it ?

You could buy a *brand-new* 280bhp 4x4 Impreza WRX STi for that.

Of course it is - you've just spent a few thousand quid buying the engine, getting it fitted, and insuring the result. An extra £700 is pif-all !

It would cost £1000-1500 to have a set of Jenveys set up properly on MBE management in total on a 4 cyl car. £700 on a 320i is complete madness and a complete waste of money i'm sorry Nom, and I was argueing the fact that you had to spend alot on good management, but not £5k.

I saw it again

Well that guy needs to be shot to be fair....

Unless Mason is making it up...