carbed 87 Dodge Aries "K" car been sitting five years want to fix it up. is it tough to.........

Does it have kerosene or varsol in it now?? In any event I'd siphon it out and put some fresh fuel in it. I don't their is a need to drop the tank unless the fuel pump is bad. The carb might be gunked up as well sitting that long.

As for your brakes try to bleed them first and see if the pedal returns

The old gas can be a mess. I would pull the tank and clean it out / see what kind of shape it is in. Sock filter in the tank is probably done for. Replace the external filter as well and be prepared to go through the car if need be.

Brakes are toast after sitting that long. You will most likely need new wheel cylinders / calipers and master cylinder. On a car that old I would replace the rubber brake lines as well.

I' just pulled a '64 Galaxie out of storage that was last driven when your car was new so I'm doing all these same things here too. I love these projects!!

Steve B.

Carburated '87? Is that a 2.6? If so, the carb may well be your problem, and be unfixable (according to all I've read: I had a TBI

....Ed

I'm guessing your Aries either isn't a 1987 or the fuel system isn't original equipment. Why does it have a carburetor?

If you do have a mechanical fuel pump, you can disconnect the line to the tank, temporarily install a cheap general purpose electric fuel pump, and try to suck the tank dry that way. If nothing comes out you will need to check the lines, then the tank. There's no easy way around it. I'd be more inclined to think that a 1987 Aries would have an intank fuel pump, because they did... in which case that pump needs to be diagnosed/replaced (with the tank out). Two birds, one stone.

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thanks

So.... "thanks" is an answer to why a 1987 Aries K has a carburetor? If you want to receive (free) help you need to tell us pertinent specifics to what you're working on.

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Sorry I was so short on words.

It could easily be TBI: I didn't even take the whole air filter off to see what it looks like...

Re the brake pedal: We got the car home here, and in a week I'll have time to start back up on it. After some pumping on the brake pedal, it finally came up -- so that was real good. I'll still bleed the lines though.....

I am going to try everything you said, Toyota MDT in MO. Real good stuff. Thanks for your expertise......... My life is full to the brim, but I intend to check it out now that its been towed out of the garage where it was being stored. Now here at my home....

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What did it originally come with? Throttle body injection?

Tegger:

I am not sure what it came with originally.

Comboverfish, What does Toyota MDT mean?

Thx for your help!! I did have a second to peak up at the back of the tank yesterday, and yes -- it has two removable items on the back and one is very likely an in-tank fuel pump. Hopefully it is still working -- that will be one of the first things I do when I have the time -- I'll disconnect the fuel at the engine, see if it's already pressurized there, turn on the ignition and see if there's an electric fuel pump running, etc. Years back we had an old Aries wagon, and will pull that manual and see if it matches the year -- if not I'll get one for this car. Anyway, yeah I'd bet it's electric fuel pumping. I just need to get the time -- I thank you again for your help.

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Sorry, I've been having Google Group issues. Yes, TBI in 1987 (at least in the U.S.) DKDC about other country destination options :-)

Carb use ended with the 1985 models with both the 2.2 corporate engine and the 2.6 Mitsubishi. In 1986 they TBI-ed the 2.2, added a 2.5 (TBI) version of the 2.2, and dropped the 2.6. This is true for the K body, other FWD platforms vary slightly.

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It's an 87 Aries with EFI. Sat for ~6 years. Tries to run when a bit of fresh gas is poured directly into the throttle body. The plugs were perfect / white. I accessed the gas filter, to ease the job of draining the tank of the ancient gas. Took off the hose going to the engine. Had someone turn the ignition key to "Run": no fuel came out of the tank, and no buzz/whir of the fuel pump. (Maybe the pump is jammed, or not getting current.) I've heard folks say to bank the back of tank with rubber mallet to unjam the pump -- maybe worth trying??? Next I think I'll de-pressure the injector at the T-B, by jumping power to it for a few seconds --- in case the pump is not energizing 'cause the brain thinks it already has adequate fuel pressure. (Haines manual very short, but thats how they say to depressurize...) If no luck at that, I was gonna carefully jump power right to the connector on the back of the tank (at the fuel pump access door), to see if that gets the pump going..... In the event the issue turns out to be the fuel pump: am not sure I'll go to that hassle -- maybe get rid of it instead. Anyway: kooking at the back of the tank: looks like I'd only have to drop the tank an inch or two to get the pump out. Anyone know if the back of tank can be dropped a few inches, rather than dropping the whole damn thing??? (I know I'd have to disconnect the fill tube, etc...) Thx for the thoughts!!!

On Mar 21, 5:45 pm, Comboverfish wrote:

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Before you start jumpering around injectors and directly to the fuel pump, its much easier to jumper around the auto-shutdown relay and the fuel pump relay (temporarily) to see if that gets things going. My bet is a DOA pump from sitting immersed in decomposing gasoline for 6 years, though.

Dropping a fuel tank isn't a big deal, unless its full.

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