GM Dealer Challenges the Toyota Tundra's Ads... AS BULL

Duh! The Tundra in the commercial pulling the 10,000 LB was not a base model with a six speed tranny

mike

GM got investigated for this. Seems they were putting a Chevette trans (made for a ~100 HP car) into cars with >100 HP.

Shoot, they were putting them in V-8 Caddies!

If you had raised a stink, GM would have replaced it for free. But, with you not knowing it was a Chevette tranny, can you guess what they would have replaced it with?

No wonder Chevy dealers are just about GIVING the Cobalt away!

Get real I had enough to know most of the Toyota of old were crap as well, . . One can not base their new car purchase on what was on the market just five years ago let alone ten or fifteen. What counts today is what is available on the market today and at what price. In that regard Toyota makes good stuff but then so is every manufacturer building good long lasting cars today.

mike

"build quality" in the same sentence as "GM, Ford and Dodge." LOL. Good one, "mike," we didn't know you were such a comedian..

I seem to recall we covered this topic a few weeks ago and the consensus of opinion was that Jethro would never let Bubba hold his beer. Or vice versa.

Hey, Bubba! Watch THIS!

and then the predictable...

I'm sure that's something that you really kept track of and have proof of. Perhaps you read too many GM brochures.

I did not say the Toyota was better. I know GM builds a great truck. I worked for Chevy dealer for 33 years. I know Toyota is just coming into the large pick-up market and has some thing to learn. That does not mean that their product is not a good truck. GM's build quality is up to world standard now ,I agree with that. But Toyota has always had build quality the rest of the world wishes they had. Scott

My first Toyota was a used 1986 Camry hatchback sedan, which I drove until

130,000 miles, at which point my daughter needed a car and I swapped with her for her old Peugeot. She drove the Toy another 47,000 miles and sold it to a classmate at ASU in Tempe. He's probably still driving it. I recall renewing the brakes and changing timing belts, and probably a set of tires in the time I owned it. And that's all. Although they were sold in much greater numbers, GM cars of 1986 vintage are seldom seen on the highways and byways, at least to my old eyes. And the LA Times Sunday ads for used cars are somewhat enlightening, like the frequency with which ads for used Cadillacs might state "87,000 miles, new transmission" or "85,000 mi, rebuilt engine". And these are not Chevies, they're the top of the line....C A D I L L A C. There's a Buick dealer in the San Gabriel Valley who sells a lot of ex-rentals, with prices like $12,950 for a '07 Chevy Impala. (with five or six in stock at that price). That's enough evidence for me that GM is not making quality iron.

Oh, and I don't think every car maker is making quality merchandise. Check out the problems with new Land Rovers and Range Rovers, which are not econoboxes.

Duh, yourself. You're the one who made the spurious comment about the Tundra having a V6 as the base engine. Everybody's full-size truck has a V6 as the base engine on paper so they can say they offer it as a fuel efficient option. How many of them actually show up on car lots?

I'm sure none of the Chevys in commercials have the V6 either. Your saying that the Tundra has a base V6 was a meaningless point.

Hey, mister never-learned-statistics: Do you want to take another look at that statement and fix it because without certain information, it's meaningless? Or, should we just laugh at you, yet again?

I never said Toyota did not build a good truck, they do. What I said was Toyota is just now starting to catch up to the build quality of domestics truck, not now building one 'better' than the domestics, as the Tundra TV ads imply. Why in the world would GM, Ford and Dodge 'wish' to build a lesser truck in any event? ;)

mike

What I was referring to was what one get for the price. Do some comparison shopping and you will discover a base V6 Tundra costs one MORE to drive home than a base V8 from either GM, Ford or Dodge and they are better trucks

mike

Dance Mike Dance

Jimmy has ten apples and Tommy has five apples. If they each have tree apples that have worms, who has the highest percentage of wormy apples? You can get two extra points for neatness ;)

mike

Apparently new trucks buyer do not agree with you minority opinion. 35% of the trucks sold in 2006 were Fords, 30% were Chevys. 19% were Dodge trucks and only a measly 5% were Toyota trucks. If I were a Toyota partisan that would not be a laughing matter ;)

mike

Are there as many of those as there are Toyotas that have the sludge problem? The manufacturer with the most recalls in 2006 was Toyota. Does that mean they are all bad vehicles? Certainly not, it simply man that all manufacturers make some on occasion that are not up to snuff. That is why they all offer a warranty, including Rolls Royce. The fact is when one buys a new vehicle they have a statistical change of around 2% of getting one of the bad ones, no matter what brand name is on the grill, and a 98% change of getting one that is trouble free, no matter what brand name is on the grill ;)

mike

That's enough evidence for me

What do you expect them to do? Say, "GM and Ford make better trucks?" Of course, they are going to try to show they have a better truck. Just like Coke and Pepsi both try to say they are better than the other.

Jeff

You forgot to say, "I my opinion."