{OT} just one more result of liberalism

badgolferman · 2007-11-14T15:11:47+00:00

ATLANTA - More than 1 million cases of chlamydia were reported in theUnited States last year ? the most ever reported for a sexuallytransmitted disease, federal health officials said Tuesday.Gonorrhea rates are jumping again after hitting a record low, and anincreasing number of cases are caused by a "superbug" version resistantto common antibiotics.Syphilis is rising, too. The rate of congenital syphilis ? which candeform or kill babies ? rose for the first time in 15 years."Hopefully we will not see this turn into a trend," said Dr. KhalilGhanem, an infectious diseases specialist at Johns Hopkins University'sSchool of medicine. we have the result of teaching "sex education" at younger ages inpublic schools. I guess demonstrating how to put condoms on cucumbersreally isn't translating to the real thing.Why are schools in the business of teaching how to have sex? They arefailing just as miserably as they are in teaching the learning basics.

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JoeSpareBedroom 18 years ago

Illiterates: True, but you won't solve that problem through the schools alone. My son had some pretty brutal English teachers. Even so, it's my brilliant opinion that he got to be a great writer because his mother and I never stopped telling that we expected him to achieve a certain level of proficiency. Without the parents sending the same message as the teachers, half the formula is missing.

Now, about sex education: There have been plenty of surveys which indicate that 1/3 (or more) of parents tell their kids NOTHING about sex. It stands to reason that those same parents have low expectations for their kids' academic achievements, so my conclusion is that some of those kids will not be resourceful enough to find accurate information on their own.

What do you suppose are some of the results of misinformation, or lack of information?

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witfal 18 years ago

Exactly. It's laziness, with another prominent example of how it's not politically correct to point out spelling errors on usenet.

LOL (and you don't see me use that one often):

Pregnancy, STDs, infertility, death, economic woes, increased crime, and destroyed lives.

But these could also apply to politics at any level.

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JoeSpareBedroom 18 years ago

Good. Now, just to be clear, you wrote a phrase above beginning with the word "Pregnancy". Three questions:

1) Do you agree that you wrote it?

2) Do you still believe, after writing it, that those are some of the results of sexual ignorance?

3) Let's say you were the king of California, and you could eliminate sex ed instantly, by decree. How would you mop up the results caused by your decision?

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larry moe 'n curly 18 years ago

WHO?

I kind of doubt that teen single-mom births are counted differently over there than over here, especially when the rates vary by 2:1. Also in countries with socialized medicine, people seek treatment more than they do in the US, so if anything I'd expect more undercounting here.

Are you suggesting that the US actually has lower rates of teen VD and pregnancy, and if so, what's your proof or explanation?

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larry moe 'n curly 18 years ago

Reality says it doesn't work out that way. Do you have any proof that it does? I don't mean just isolated examples because they can be found to prove any practice or viewpoint but numbers showing rates of infection and pregnancies.

People like Dbu, Scott, Mike, and BadGolferMan.

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larry moe 'n curly 18 years ago

Actually most parents, usually barely a majority, are for it.

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larry moe 'n curly 18 years ago

That's really misleading, outright false information, Mike.

Condoms are highly effective at stopping STDs and pregnancies, and a couple of studies have found this to be true even with married couples where one member of each was HIV+. One of those studies, involving about 200 couples, found that each uninfected person remained uninfected even after a year, the limit of that study.

OTOH abstinence-only programs have one of the lowest rates of effectiveness, if not the lowest (Kaiser Family Foundation), and the only people claiming otherwise are their sponsors.

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witfal 18 years ago

Cite.

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witfal 18 years ago

Principal's office? They're the freakin' problem. Several dozen at a school board meeting were far more effective.

No question. That's why you mandate the signatures. At least the parents

Not too far from the mark.

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larry moe 'n curly 18 years ago

I can't. It's just what I've seen over the years, and actually I was surprised because I thought most parents were against sex ed in schools.

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witfal 18 years ago

Ah. Too bad you couldn't at least find it on Fox News.

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badgolferman 18 years ago

I'm honored that you are including me in such distinguished company. What have I done to deserve such recognition? Tell me so I can uphold the expectations you have.

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