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Except what you haven't seemed to notice is that most of the owners here like Scott who are defending Toyota quality own old Toyotas mostly made in Japan.

What I really want is a laser guided missle system that can home onto cell phones being operated by drivers.

There is no relationship with the quality of Toyota cars and whether some (or even many) dealers screw up oil changes.

It seems that more and more states and cities are banning cell phone use while driving. Hopefully, driving while talking will be one of those "back in my time" stories.

Once again, you are full of s*it. My folks and my brother own recent Corollas that were made in North America, and they have been very reliable, typical of Toyota.

Again, even if Toyota's quality has taken a bit of a dip, their long-term reliability still beats the big 3.

Or in restaurants....

WTF did we ever do without the damned things?

My wagon is made in Japan.

My '97 Corolla was made in America.

Get with the rest of the group. They were also attacking my past criticisms of my 2001 Avalon.

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You really don't have a clue about what we are discussing. Quality isn't just reliablity. My criticisms regarding my 2001 Avalon were about poorly implemented features, not reliability. For example, the auto climate control was a joke (it even says it might not work right in the owner's manual), the car stretched and shrunk perceptibly when you hit the gas and brake respectively (technician told me that it was caused by lag in dynamic engine mount. Also some were recalled because of inadequate welding of subframe which held the engine.... mine wasn't but I bet the subframe was inadequate), the doors relocked themselves after 30 seconds if you didn't open a door in time (great when putting something in the trunk... by the time the trunk was loaded the car had locked itself up again), the seatbelt rewind springs were inadequate, the net in the trunk was put in a utterly useless position, once every 2 months or so the VSC/traction lights would lite up indicating a problem but the issue could not be diagnosed, sometimes the brake pedal dropped as you slowed to a stop making the car speed up again..... it was apparently due to engine speed changes when the ac was on under some exact magical conditions, squeaks and click from the dash were constant and in cold weather the pastic cowl trim slapped the bottom of the windshield unless you siliconed it in place. There were lots more signs of poor quality. I got rid of it in December with just 22k miles on it. It was so annoying we hardly drove it.

I would say that the big Toyota complaints started later than 97 with the suspension problems in Camry's and Avalons.

Let me boil them down....

1. The dash was not straight
2. You pissed off the dealer so they didn't help you find a couple of rattles.
3. You are too lazy to turn the air conditioner on high when it is hot outside...

That explains why you like Bush. His reading comprehension is low too.

Do you consider 2000 old?

Mine was made in Japan

Natalie

Me too! Where can you get those?

Natalie

It's really getting awful. I'd say at least one of three drivers I see are yakking away

Natalie

Same thing we did without microwaves

Natalie

Wal-Mart branded automotive products to be anything but

the extra $2.00 for an OEM filter, even though it

Even a fram oil filter kind of worries me when the owners manual for my car shows normal oil pressure range 10 - 80 psi.

I don't know whether to believe all of this or not. But if it is all true, then you probably got a rare lemon. So don't go bashing Toyota just because of one bad experience.

LOL! Reminds me of a camping trick with some Cub Scouts. I was preparing a simple dinner of spaghetti with sauce from a jar, salad, and garlic bread. One of the Scouts wanted to know how we were going to make garlic bread without a microwave!