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It is, weather permitting... The first winter, my wife thought that the roof was a perfect place for her exercise equipment.. (only place, really, no room in the house) She found out that between wind, cold and motivation, the roof was just a good place to store shit..

Don't get me wrong, it is a nice place to hang out sometimes, but since everyone thinks that they're going to practically live on the roof, they make it nice.. then, the next generation of folks see all the nice roofs and think that they have to have one..

We bought a queen-size air bed before we moved.. figured that it would be great for sleeping on the roof.. Never been out of the friggin' box.. lol

mac

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mac davis
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if that works for you, good. believe what you wish. on the one hand i have a mexican native (former/future) employee and in fact a very good friend telling me one thing, and some guy on the internet who i dont know telling me that he found something on the internet that contradicts what my employee told me. i think i would consider his word more credible.

.......nothing personal sir.

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Nathan W. Collier

we could go back and forth all day about this and accomplish _nothing_....surely you can agree on that.

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Nathan W. Collier

i like it because it looks like a very defensible position. :-)

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Nathan W. Collier

lol.....you should have seen my employee oscar coming from mexico city into a montana winter. i swear he moved in slow motion. :-)

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Nathan W. Collier

I'll have to post a pic of the neighbor's house.. we call it The Alamo..

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Mostly under and uneducated. Mexico exports its poverty instead of dealing with it themselves. Americans tend to believe Mexico by and large is mostly living in poverty. That leads them to feel those that come here are a cross section of the Mexican population. I find Mexicans in Mexico nicer, harder working and more willing to give even when they are living in poverty.

We invited a man selling crafts on the beach over to our trailer for a BBQ. On a later trip he invited our entire family over to his house where his wife made us the best tamale's I've ever had. Just a fun experience meeting the locals there. Always so friendly to us.

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Miles

Exactly. My point was that for every example of how someone lost out due to corruption in the Mexican Gov., it's pretty easy to find a similar example in the USA. The Mexican Gov. is not a hodge podge of organized criminal corruption. At least not much more than the USA. It's come along ways from 3+ decades ago. However, cities such as Tijuana still have major problems.

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Miles

Far more so than you who know zilch.

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Miles

Say all that you want Miles because all you are really managing to do is prove my points. 40% below the poverty level is even worse than Jamaica and to see the way some of the people live over there is enough to make you cry.

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TBone

Never said otherwise. I only stated that Mexico is NOT a country where most people are dirt poor and starving. Mexico exports its poverty to the USA as a way of solving the problem. Those that come here are mostly under and uneducated.

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Miles

You mean Mexico's elections where the liberal candidate lost and started a huge protest even worse than what the liberals in the USA did in FL? When a liberal loses they never blame themselves to improve next time and gain votes. Same in the USA or Mexico.

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Miles

Actually Miles. I was talking about this country.

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TBone

Mexico ranks right next to Australia for % of people living below the median income. That 40% is also based on the USA's poverty level which doesn't apply to Mexico to well. Someone earning a wage at the USA's poverty level would certainly not be poor in Mexico. Heck, most people at the USA's poverty level would be considered doing rather well in many other countries.

Jamaica huh? Hmm. Another country you've never been too but know all about huh?

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miles

Hatred and false promises from liberal politicians. They have not delivered what they campaigned to do. And sorry TBone, it's not because of Reps that the Dems have not delivered. They haven't even tried. But they have tried to do even worse. If it weren't for the Reps our spending would be even higher than it is. The Reps are horrible but the Dems are not the answer.

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miles

Huh Nate? I don't base anything on the internet. I've lived there and have family in Mexico. I know what it's like there. Your beliefs are old worn out stereotypical myths not based on anything other than hearsay. It's sad that so many in this country have a complete lack of understanding about our neighbors.

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miles

you were quoting a mexican government website. that _is_ something you found on the internet.

ill let oscar know hes really NOT earning roughly $5 a day. ill let him know that hes NOT sharing a house with a dozen other people (only way they can afford a house) and ill let him know its because some guy on the internet told me its just a stereotypical myth. :-)

.....ok, actually hes not. i sent him money to float on until we can get him back up here. but he WAS before i sent the money.

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Nathan W. Collier

To TBone on an unrelated subject because he demands sites which I agree with you that they're worthless. You can find anything you want on the internet to show anything you want.

You replied about Gov. corruption. It's here in the USA as well but works a bit different. Not as blatent. But the idea of trying to bribe your way out of a mess in Mexico is myth.

If he needs a better paying job let me know. I know where to send him to make far more. Theres people here in the USA making didly squat. You base what all of Mexico is like based on Oscar?

Theres people in the USA doing the same thing. Whats your point?

and ill let him know its because some guy on the

Theres poor people in the USA as well. Should the USA be stereotyped in the same way as you are with Mexico?

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miles

That is not true. Perhaps you had better go back and really look at the site that you posted. IIRC, and I'm not going to even bother wasting the time to look, the rating that you are refering to is GNP, not the number of people living above or below the poverty line. The poverty level rating can be found by clicking on Mexico in the main rating list and then clicking on the link where it shows the poverty level. A whole new list pops up showing the ranks of the different countries according to population below the poverty level and Australia is nowhere near it but Jamaica is right above it and everyone knows just how dirt poor that country is.

Damn Miles, can you really be this stupid???? That would make it a meaningless number. Sorry to burst you bubble Miles, but once again you are dead wrong. Those numbers are based on the poverty level of the specific country, not the US.

That is correct so please explain the meaning of using the US poverty level as a basis point for other countries. You will not be able to because it makes no sense at all and would be completely meaningless. Hell Miles, even in this country you can't even do that between States. Do you really think that you can live at the same level for the same money in California as you can in Montana.

Again, more proof that basing poverty level of other countries on American incomes as you said they did would be completely meaningless and that you really don't know WTF you are talking about.

Actually Miles. I have been there a few times. As you like to say, I have, or in this case had, family over there. And like you said, many of the locals are loving and caring people but many don't have a pot to piss in.

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TBone

Damn Miles, now you have to resort to lies.

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TBone

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