134a Refrigerant

A long time ago, in my wilder youth, I had a sad foray into a career as a research meteorologist... thus the picknitting.

L.W.(ßill) Hughes III proclaimed:

Who said anything about adding stuff? All we were talking about was mixing! All the parts are already there. You're the one saying that the gas gets heavier when it's mixed.

Save your condolences for your own family, BTW... and point out to me where I can find this 'liberal seminar'...=20 I've never heard of one. =20 __ Steve .

As I said, you're too late. You didn't jump me when the claim about the TLA was valid. You might stop pleasuring yourself and address the arguments.

No... you don't get it. You *still* haven't attacked the substance of my statement. All we get are empty assertions. Discuss where I'm wrong! You can use my second (post-Google) post to refer to... it might help you somewhat.

Back it up, or suck it up.

I don't worship anybody... more crap from you. Actually, Freon *is* a compound, and you are pretty stupid to take the counter argument. =20

Empty blather... as long as you're talking, you're happy... it doesn't have to make sense, obviously.

Keep doing it... I know you don't want to stop. I *do* get some perverse pleasure out of dragging these bits of illogic out into the open. Just think how long these fallacies of yours will live in the archives! __ Steve .

Bill, Bill, Bill.... why do you torment yourself so? If God wanted a hurricane to do what you suggest, I'm sure that He could arrange it.

Now answer the question... can air one foot north of the equator mix with air one foot south of the equator? It's a simple question, Bill... why won't you answer it? __ Steve .

yeah no s*it! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up all the components they are heavier than the individual components.

EXACTLY! to "mix" something is to combine it with something else. to quote dictionary.com : 1.. To combine or blend into one mass or mixture. 2.. To create or form by combining ingredients: mix a drink; mix cement. 3.. To add (an ingredient or element) to another: mix an egg into batter. what youre describing is simply shaking something and thats NOT what we're discussing. you dont even understand what "mix" means yet youre going to attempt to explain ozone depletion? BUWHAHAHA!

sheesh, you really ARE that stupid!

but i did. i told you that your statement was WRONG.

lol for one thing you stated it was used in HVAC which its not. WRONG! :-)

TRANSLATION --> "i have no valid response" :-)

TRANSLATION --> "i worship engineers" :-)

"freon" is a brand name. refrigerant is a compound. but i wouldnt expect a tar-baby to understand that.

what horse crap! i never said that an HMC was an object or anything else. i simply listed its common reference within the industry. i wouldnt expect you to know that because i knew you were full of s*it from the start. :-)

lol agreed. like i said, confusing him with the facts. :-)

Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two compounds by definition would be heavier, but would the mixture be heavier per unit volume?

unit volume of each individual element would be the same, certainly. unit volume is irrelevant however, until the compound is broken down. refrigerant would be even heavier than the chlorine that stephen fears so.

Pretty lame stuff... got anything better? =20

I found it in Google under 'HVAC'... is there a problem? Refrigeration not part of HVAC? =20

Why don't you have a response? You claim that your use of the TLA 'HMC' in a sentence was meant to imply *nothing at all*... how nice that you should finally find your verbiage as vapid=20 as I do.

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Pitiful... you have my pity. =20

Oh, now with the 'tar-baby' epithet... well, it turns out that it just might be the most apropos epithet you've ever used. Go back and read about Brer' Rabbit... then come back and punch the Tar Baby some more.

So Freon(tm) is not a compound, but HeadMaster(tm)=20 is not a brand? How your head spins! =20

Once I found out that it was supposed to read 'Head Master Control' (which is wrong, see above) I made educated guesses without using Google... evidently I got pretty close, since you have steered very clear of rebutting them.

Tell us again how the whole world is wrong! __ Steve .

STOP!!! STOP NOW!!!! I'm gonna piss all over myself!

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whew!.... OK, carry on with the bullshit...

Re-read your opener above... then hide for a few months. __ Steve .

A true Jeep Nobelist! Bill, I hereby christen you a 'Thinker of Deep Thoughts'... keep on diggin'! I *know* you can go deeper! __ Steve .

Heavier than the components summed individually? Perhaps you can tell us where the extra weight comes from! __ Steve .

So something magically stops the air one foot north of the equator from mixing with the air one foot south of the equator? Can you tell me what would be able to do that? __ Steve .