101 Exhausts.

Started as a mistake, but then I rather liked it, so left it!

David

I can understand why...... Badger.

On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:37:41 +0100, "Badger" enlightened us thusly:

it's out by several orders of magnitude.

On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:04:03 +0100, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

yeah, but if you're bothered about the trim getting scratched, you're not really an off-roader, just a numpty who's got in out of their depth. If I could afford a D3 (or even a D2) I might well take it off-road, but I'd not be that precious about it.

Last time I went to the (now, I suspect, defunct) Pontardawe course, there was a chap there with a new shiney toyota of some sort, complete with fog lights mounted low down on the front. He didn't seem unduly bothered at their demise during the days amusement, and it went quite impressively around the "ordinary" bits of the course where we were playing. The nutters had departed to the mud-run, of course, although we met up with some of them later attempting to scale a more-or-less impassable gulley, which resulted in some amusement for the onlookers.

On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:11:22 +0100, "Oily" enlightened us thusly:

You're just jealous 'cos you can't afford one...

But what would be the point of spending that kind of money on a vehicle that you were going to bash around off-road, after all what does it have to offer other than prestige and luxury? They don't handle well off-road, and don't handle well on-road, there's not a thing that the luxury town tractors can do that can't be done much better by something much cheaper.

He's not using it as an all out off roader, he uses it for work, so some degree of comfort is needed! I used a 110 TD for the last 5 months & whilst i love it, the noise & speed can be a bit much on long journeys!

Personally I bought a Defender and an Audi and got a car that'll out-do any of the luxo-barges on the road and one that'll out-do them off the road too! Plus I get the benefit of having a spare car ;-)

I've had some people say "why don't you get a car that can do both", well the simple answer is that they've not made one yet and doubt they ever will. The Audi is quiet and does 47MPG, the Defender is the most reliable car I've owned and can be cleaned inside with a hosepipe and a high-lift jack (to get the water out), now that's luxury ;-)

On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:55:11 +0100, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

Not everyone can afford to have more than one motor on the road, though, or has parking for them, or various other issues. Given the option, it makes sense to have several vehicles - I do myself: minibus for work, series III for play and for when it's snowy, sierra for roadwork, bike for having fun on in the summer...

but currently, only the SIII and the minibus are legal - the car's not taxed 'cos I couldn't afford it when it came up for renewal last month and the bike's neither taxed nor MOTed, and is only insured 'cos ICBA to cancel it and it only costs 10 quid a month - it's not that likely to get nicked round here although it is insured for theft. Mind you, I bet they'd try to weasel out of it on the grounds that it's not taxed or MOTed...

I hope to combine the SIII and minibus functions into one, mind; but that does restrict the playing that can be done - as it is, if I go playing in the SIII and break it, it can stay broken for a week or a month without causing any problems - the minibus has to be running 190 days of the year.

If we're talking about spending 40-60K on an urban tractor then I can't think of many things that make it the best option!

Yep, same here, audi for mile-eating, landy for lugging stuff around long-distance and towing, pinz for off-roading fun and lotus for keeping the rain off the garage floor. Only audi and landy are on the road though, I've usually got at least two cars that are running.

Yikes, best keep the toys separate from the necessities! I've seen people turning up to off-road events in the trucks they use to run their tree surgeon's business etc, a bit risky although it helps to make sure they know what they can do in it. I suppose the business can pick up the tab but it still comes out of the owner's pocket at the end of the day.

What bike you got Austin?

A true $x$ if ever there was one :-)

Lee D

hehehe, like it! Badger.

Tell me where I said I wasn't. ;-)

Martin

On or around Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:48:39 +0100, "Nige" enlightened us thusly:

BMW R60, somewhat modified.

mmmm - nice, BMW's are a tad twee these days, that looks like it needs a sidecar with an MG42 on point duty!!

top do!