6.2 V8 diesel

I have recently been mulling over the idea of replacing the engine in my 1984 110.
Does anyone have any experience of one of these 6.2 litre V8 diesels
in a Land Rover?
I was thinking it would be best attached to an automatic gearbox.
Any thoughts boys and girls?
Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)
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Talk to Maddison 4x4. They're doing this with the Ibex which started off largely with Land Rover mechanicals.
http://www.maddison4x4.com/foers_ibex/vehicles/7F073.html
David
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:19:41 +0000, Dougal <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote:>

Thanks for that, can't be a bad choice of engine then..
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Mr.Nice. wrote:

Mark, does that go against the point of a DERV! Cant see you getting MPG out of a 6.2 engine of any description!!!!
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out of a 6.2 engine of any

That would depend entirely on your reasons for selecting a diesel engine.
If you wanted diesel for purely fuel economical reasons, then it probably isn't a good choice, though having said that, I bet it would be more economical than a 3.5 petrol. If, however, you wanted an engine with load of low down torque, and with a decent degree of water resistance for wading, then the 6.2 would be an excellent choice.
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SimonJ wrote:

True enough, but for a working vehicle ( i believe Mark uses it for work) MPG is usually reasonably high on the list. I know what you mean though ;~)
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I too have been thinking of this sort of conversion but you need to bear in mind the weight of the engine and also the centre of gravity of it all, I have heard in previous posts about this that it makes for a very front top heavy set up !!!! If anyone goes ahead with such a conversion I would love to see some pics
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MPG is usually reasonably high

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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:20:31 -0000, "Nige"

Yea, but have you ever heared one?
I heard one of those nasty american humvee things once, military model, sounded bloody good.
And I wonder what the MPG would be considering how hard my 2.5 works to pull my 110 around. would a 6.2 ever rev beyond idle?
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:20:31 -0000, "Nige"

I just contacted Samurai Diesel Conversions to ask them for an MPG.
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:20:31 -0000, "Nige"

Searching the internet found mention of 26mpg in a tomcat racing thingy.... hmmm
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I would have a chat with Patrick at Maddison 4x4 - they fit these on a regular basis, mainly to Ibex but also to Defenders. The Ibex uses Defender running gear, suspension, steering etc...
They have stopped using the LR ZF auto and are now fitting the GM gearbox that was designed for the engine as the ZF is borderline in coping with the torque from one of these engines. I did have a chat with someone a couple of years ago who was using one with a manual box and his comments would make an auto seem a sensible option ! Apparently he had destroyed 3 diffs in a month of road use due to letting the clutch out a bit too sharply... Autos don't seem to suffer from this problem as they absorb a lot of the transmission shocks.
Beware of buying from UK sources (Maddison 4x4 import theirs from a specialist in the US) as there are some VERY dodgy "reconditioned" engines floating about. One "reconditioned engine" that was recently replaced due to catastrophic failure actually had cylinder head bolts that, judging by the different paint on them, came from 3 different engines. The cylinder head bolts are supposed to be replaced with new items whenever they are removed as they stretch...
There is some info on the Maddison 4x4 web site - http://www.maddison4x4 . com/ with a typical installation shown at: http://www.maddison4x4.com / foers_ibex/vehicles/7F073.html
If you are anywhere near Thirsk in the next week or so they had a complete engine and gearbox sat in the shop last time I was there - they are fitting it into a new Ibex.
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Dave W. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net /
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I had the same idea of this engine in my 90. A garage quoted me 1600 for engine, auto box and a new stainless exhaust including swapping the engines over.Not a bad price. Quite a few people on here advised on not doing it.The power of this engine literally chews up gearboxes like there,s no tomorrow.Especially manuals. Although the earlier 3 speed from earlier Range Rovers were thought to be able to cope within reason. I decided against it in the end.
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Bit of a major task to do properly, new rad, exhaust, vented front discs at the very least, uprated springs and front shocks to cope with the considerable extra weight. Needs to have an autobox capable of handling the torque, not the ZF4 which has a max limit of 300ftlb. You'll need to consider the next weak link in the transmission, and once you've fitted a GM auto, Jeep Quadra-Trac transfer box (one of my favourites for all-out strength), Ashcroft half-shafts, 4-pin front diff etc etc etc; it'll then rip the front spring mounts away from the chassis. As for my personal thoughts, my preferred option (if money was no object) would be to fit a BMW 3.0 straight 6 turbodiesel A.K.A. TD6, preferably with the bmw (GM5L40E) adaptive 5 speed autobox that was mated to it originally, with an adaptor to the LT230. Would be interesting to make it all work, a bit of lateral thought would probably be required to sort out the necessary engine and gearbox ECU's but it'd surely be worth it?? With a basic chip this engine will give 220+bhp and 330+ftlb, an interesting 110 perhaps??? Badger.
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The most sensible alternative so far. In fact there's no need to *uck about converting, just get a new or up to two year old Range Rover and you've got the lot and more. If you don't want the lot more then you could always strip it out. FWIW mine is chipped but only to an estimated 200hp or so. At this power I find that the engine quickly rises to the governor but acceleration is not lightening fast. I had the X5 set one power position higher and it flew but with noticeable smoke at low revs. The RR is a bit heavier, but not much. Like me, all you need is a silver tongue and very understanding bank manager .
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Is it not the point of having an old land rover with a very silly engine in it, and the doing of the conversion, which every one likes about the landy, the fact of continual tinkerability with one of very few vehicles which you can still do this with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, pass me the gas-axe, plasma torch, angle grinder, measuring tape, mig welder and Rolls-Royce 33ltr twin-supercharged Griffon V12. It WILL fit, I tell you, it Will it WILL!! (Might need a halfshaft upgrade, though!) ;-))
Badger. Still under the affluence of incohol. Hic!
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One of the few engine sounds that does beat a V8....
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V12............
Ever heard a 14litre Cummins at full power? Gorgeous!
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Right, that's it. The restraint gloves and sensibility shackles are off. As much as I absolutely LOVE the noise a V8 makes, and also a decent V12, You CANNOT beat a Napier Deltic 18-25 engine at full song. Delta formation, triple crank opposed 18 cylinder supercharged 2 stroke diesel. 1650bhp at 1500rpm. Pass me the super-duper extra-high ratio transfer gears...... hubba hubba. Might need RSJ for chassis rails though. Badger.
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On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:11:29 +0000 (UTC), Badger wrote:

Naw you want a *REAL* engine. 7,780hp per cylinder, 14 cylinder straight has a capcity of 25,480l and produces 108,920hp and 5,608,312 lb/ft at 102rpm only uses 1,660 gallons per hour.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl /
Bit big for yer average landie though. B-)
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