Good Td5's??

Feb 25, 2006 43 Replies

To cap it all they couldn't get the replacement new engine to start and had to ship the whole vehicle to Coventry to be sorted. LR don't seem to have a sevice engineering crash team that can back-up dealers in a crisis. Usually this is part of a manufacturers service to its dealers assuming the dealer is diligent with staff training and has a good relationship with the manufacturer.

Huw

We had a TD5 lying in Water for 7 hours and after drying and cleaning the head (and draining the oils) it started immediately. And it was completely under water.

Raoul

In my opinion it ist. I own a 99 and one 04 TD5 (the 99 goes a bit better) and with mild tuning they are perfect engines. No oil consumption, revs and has loads of torque and refuses to make any problems. Not one of the sluggish diesel-beasts araound, a really wonderful engine to drive.

Raoul

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Nuts! the oil pump thing is a nut slacking (and toothed gear running free instead of driving the pump's shaft) due to insufficient thread-locking liquid applied.

blast?

Ciao

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heads crack aorund the injectors, gasoil pours into the engine, when you check with the dispstick you see that oil, instead of being consumed, adds up. Miracle!

If you are patient enough to periodically drain the diluted oil, and you pour good new oil in its place, you could even not experience serious troubles. But if you eventually get bored and go for changing the head, prepare to dump lot of cash.

Ciao

The problem was with the accelerator pedal, and the engine still ran but only on tickover as the accelerator no longer worked, perhaps they've waterproofed it now, but the engine would still start and run even without the accelerator pedal working.

Ours was a 99, therefore without any modifications, anyway, it worked :-)

Probably luck :-) after destrying the whole car :-(

Raoul

Yes, I was about to say, you've got the kind of luck we can all do without!

BTW my current fantasy is to kit my defender up for deep water wading, as in getting some scuba gear and driving the thing across an estuary or something, it would be fun to do, especially in someone else's truck..

On or around Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:10:59 +0000, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

There's a picture somewhere of the army testing an SIII or maybe SII set up for deep wading - waves breaking over the windscreen.

Your main problem is air intake - if you make that tall enough, there's no reason in principle why you can't drive with the vehicle submerged. Of course, if you had a suitably big compressed air tank you could drive for a strictly limited time with no external air supply. But engines use air very much faster than people. A 2.5 4-stroke, for example, eats 1.25l of air per revolution, so if it's doing say 2000 rpm, that's 2500l per minute.

commercial compressor tanks run at about 8 bar, normally, so in theory, a

312l tank would run the engine for a minute, although in practice, it'd stop working before it was actually empty. dunno if you could do better with a high-pressure oxy cylinder and a few high pressure argon or CO2 or something, they're about 230 bar but presumably hold significantly less than 300l. Mix O2 and CO2 at about 1:4 and you should be able to run the engine on it. I daresay you could in principle set an engine up to run on straight oxygen, but it might be tricky with a compression ignition.

There was an atricle in one of the mags (LRM I think) some time ago that showed 110's being waded to something like 20ft by the Royal Marines - they had a floating snorkel or something - on of the journo's had a go. I presume they gave in a re-breather set, or he was very good at holding his breath..... why does the image of Clarkson sans air supply pop into my mind......

Richard

I'll bring the scuba gear, whose bringing the 110? If you're 5ft 10/slim build I've even got a spare drysuit.

nigelH

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I'm more Dover Marquee Company sized......

Richard

I'd go for a socking great big pipe on top of the snorkel, and would probably try using that for my own air supply too, depending on depth (IIRC normal air at some depths isn't very good for you but with a strong pipe it should be at surface pressure). Otherwise you'd be limited by the amount of gas in the scuba tanks.

I tried breathing through a hose underwater when I was a kid, first go I got a mouthful of dead spiders, second go it worked for the first three breaths until I realised I was chuffing carbon dioxide into the hose and breathing it back in. So some kind of vent valve as used on proper gear would be the order of the day.

Of course it would be a bad idea to try any of this without a good amount of experience at scuba diving first!

That'll fit me then. And I wonder if a couple of fire service beathing apparatus sets might be easier - they're ok to use down to about 3 metres or so.

...and Nigel Hewitt spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...

No use to me, I'm - er - too tall.

Ian Rawlings wrote in news:slrne0bsrt.f0a.news05 @desktop.tarcus.org.uk:

I bet you'd get sponsorship for that.

Got any rich enemies?

Derry

Huh? We're putting another bunch of Sea Cadets into a 3 meter pool in a week or so. We haven't lost any yet. Scuba has long since gone from heroics to hobby.

No. Hang on. I didn't say that. I'm a big heroic scuba diver. All resemblance to a small, 56 year old, balding grandfather is mere coincidence.

nigelH

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Q. How do you stop a sea cadet from drowning?

A. Take your foot off his head. :)

I don't mean 10 years of experience, I mean *some*, enough to be safe, I know that doesn't take years, although given that there's a vehicle involved I'd suggest that erring on the side of caution would be best.

All that water makes your skin wrinkly!

Horizontally or vertically?

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