15", 4-1/4 PCD, 4 stud, RWD type offset wheels?

Apr 28, 2007 38 Replies

Hi All,



Still in my quest to find an mild 'off road' / M&S pattern tyre for our MK2 Escort based jeep it was suggested that I might have more luck with a 15" rim.



So if we were going to a more 'army' look (daughters idea and a cheap / fun way to cover the fading gellcoat) I could use a std suitable plain car rim and paint it green etc?



So, anyone know of an easy to find 15" basic rim to suit Mk2 Escort (disk / drum) hubs please (they would probably have to be from a RWD to get the right offset etc)?



All the best ..



T i m


Mondeo was 4 stud standard ford pattern, some models had 15 inch wheels

Wrong offset though, Fords from the 70s-80s are either FWD offset or RWD offset. The RWD offset are around 25mm wider each wheel, just to confuse things a little, Sierras have the FWD offset...

That was the sort of thing I was worried about (so thanks Tony).

So the 'extra' offset was there because you didn't have the wider hubs you would probably need to get the CV joints / steering hub in a RWD?

I guess the other option would be to have some wheels made but then it's all getting a bit ridiculous. ;-(

A local tyre place seems to think you can get a fairly aggressive tyre in 185R14 by the brand of 'Rislip' (or that's what it sounds like he is saying). Any ideas please?

Failing that I guess it's back to a std road pattern tyre .. ;-(

All the best ..

T i m

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Hmm, thanks for that TP .... hmmm. At the moment the front two Colways are ok (tread and condition) and the spare has never seen the road. The rears are very good tread wize but had just been left soft for quite a while (months). They went though an MOT though but I know they aren't 'nice'.

If I was to go down to 65 profile on a 14 I'd be gaining some more revs (8.5% in fact and I already have the 4.44:1 diff).

A 185/65 *15* is quite close to my existing setup though ..

This util is quite interesting ..

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All the best and thanks again ..

T i m

You want...

108mm PCD 63mm bore for centre hole ET4 or 5 offset.

What about the Colway CNK1 185/70/R14 tyres?

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lists some. You'd have to get themfitted locally though.

Was it metric at the time or 4-1/4" do you know please Conor?

2-1/2" ? ;-)

Does that mean anything tangible (like 40 or 50 mm etc)?

So, now we know what we need, what wheel is it, from what etc?

I looked again on Mytyres and if I go to a 195/70 R14 there is a reasonably priced 'Nankang S600' (~30 quid) that looks *ok* (not quite as rugged as I hoped but maybe a good compromise) and would offer the same rolling radius as what's on there now. The only thing being would the 195 fit under the arches (the 185 just touched the back of the front arch under heavy breaking but that was before I fitted the poly-bushes).

All the best ..

T i m

Thanks for that, it gave me some further ideas (when I looked for 'Winter 185/80R14' it only shows one and it's a bit pricey and nor particularly 'off road' looking).

If I can get a 195/70R14 under the arches (and sometimes that depends how a tyre comes up) then there are a couple of choices.

All the best ..

T i m

T i m ( snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

4.25" is 107.95mm...

I've seen plenty of Fords on Pug rims - 205/309-style, so they must be close enough.

So I guess it was 4-1/4" .. who would choose 107.95 mm

I guess they would be later Fords though, FWD etc? ;-(

I sometimes wonder if it would be *easier* to rebuild this Ranger on a more modern platform .. but what .. .

All the best ..

T i m

T i m ( snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Nobody, but plenty of manufacturers would choose 4x108.

Yeah but no but what I was saying / asking is this was *probably* an imperial measurement that got converted to metric, like the rim width and diameter still being measured in inches (AFAICS)?

4-1/4" 108mm, I care less as long as I can find a wheel to suit! ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

No. The specs I gave you are for a Ford Capri and applicable to RWD MK1/2 Escorts.

Yes. MK1 Capris were imperial but MK2/3 were metric. Mk2/3 rims fit on MK1s.

Yes, but I think some Pug rims got thrown in and it was them I was referring to (knowing the Pugs are FWD).

I know the MKI/II Escorts were around the Capri era and they shared (or could share) some parts (like struts, rad's, engines, gearboxes etc).

Once I have sorted this tyre / wheel issue I'm then unsure what to do about the gearbox that has been very noisy for the last 10 years and along with that .. should I:

Just struggle on with this very tired 1300 Kent (not converted for unleaded).

Get that re-bored, new valve seats etc

Sort a 1300GT Kent and box I have and fit that.

Sort the 1600 Kent and box I have and fit that.

Put the 2L Pinto and 5sp box in ..?

Considerations are the cost of road TAX, fuel economy and insurance on each (for something we may just use for pottering around in now and then).

Sticking to the Kent lumps keeps everything easy (exhaust, fuel flow systems, wiring, engine / gearbox mounts, prop shaft lengths etc etc).

Plus they don't have cam belts (though at least the 2L Pinto is a 'safe' engine). ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

T i m ( snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

FWD/RWD doesn't matter. Offset, PCD and hub bore are the only things that matter.

Spacers can sort the offset, and adapter rings can sort the hub bore.

The spacer hasn't been invented yet that'll reduce the offset ;)

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