How to turn your car into a Hybrid-Electric car?

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Shame, I'll have another look tomorrow.

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Excellent, thanks. 28KW peak electrical power out, that's a serious battery and some very serious cabling with 600A flowing from rear of car to front.

I'd be wondering about their research of the idea of disconnecting the IC torque and only using at it's most efficient RPM for keeping the battery charged. I'd have wondered if this was even more efficient, but they must have dismised it. Maybe 28KW is low compared to power output of standard engine.

Well, 2000 pounds for thirty kilowatt short term boost is quite cheap, but it is charged by the engine running, so fuel economy won't dramatically improve. I don't really see many people taking it up.

I would rather see something I could charge off mains electricity that would reduce the amount of petrol I put in. Even if it was only say twenty miles fairly low speed capability.

mrcheerful

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A nice big boost to midrange performance though. For a sub 2 litre car would give better than 3rd gear performance while staying in fifth.

You reckon? What about the extra weight of all those batteries, brake upgrades etc. Will probably make no difference at all..

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"Scott Mills" wrote

A 36 amp-hr battery contains enough energy to deliver 30kW for 52 seconds. So the weight is not significant. The question is - is there a storage system that can repeatedly deliver it?

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:57:57 +0100, mrcheerful . wrote (in message ):

Actually, if you do town driving it will save you petrol - you get electric boost as you accellerate, then take some of that energy back into the batteries as you slow down. On a long steady drive you save nowt.

Simon

Problem with that is apparently domestic electricity prices are set to go through the roof this winter, personally I think I'll stick to the Somerfield rapeseed cooking oil... Doh!

Even if it was only say twenty miles

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Nothing new. There were "petrol-electric" buses in London in the early 20th century.

I don't see how with this system. There was a prototype PSA system with IIRC a large flywheel providing braking and tranferring power to the alternator/battery system which stored power for future acceleration. I don't see any of this in this system though. (possibly mis-remembered the details of this....[Stella...]..)

What happened to that PSA system BTW?

Assuming 100% efficiency of course. you are looking at 50-60% max in real life

exactly. such a system would weigh a ton even with today's technology. What do you think car manufactures have been trying to do for the last few years?

"Scott Mills" wrote

Not necessarily. The requirement is not for energy capacity but sharp charge/discharge cycles.

They have been busy trying to make hopelessly impractical electric cars with enough storage to do a long journey.

The short duration pulse is not something that they have been trying to offer.

The price of cooking oil might rise due to the poor harvest this year caused by so much rain. You can't win!

Ian

LPG is the next thing I want to try. Emissions are what put me off rapeseed oil as a dodge.

From what I read Biodiesel is supposed to be the DB's when it comes down to environmental considerations

so whereis it?

If the Government was 'genuinely' concerned about the environment, instead of making money, they would be 'actively encouraging' its availability at every petrol station, and with considerably less fuel duty that would encourage people to buy it.

That article says that biodiesel has lower particulate emissions, I wasn't doing a proper conversion so perhaps my subjective analysis is flawed. Other than particulates, biodiesel is obviously going to be safer, little benzene, no heavy metals, generally fewer carcinogens and all recycled CO2. I think, that with the exception of the CO2 consideration, LPG is slightly cleaner still, but my reasoning is also based around cost. (Thank you, not, mr taxman)

Yes, that I find disgusting, and proof that this country (like many others) is thoroughly 0wned by the larger PLCs.

Hence my justification for considering it to be a fight, against the govt (main tool of the PLCs), against the war-taxes, and against the sellouts who call themselves police. I'd consider the sheeple to be traitors too, but that would credit them with too much intelligence.

True but such a system is readily available at a sensible price and weight.

True. But a part of that will be rapid charging. You're not going to want to put your mondeo on charge for 4 days to goto the shops are you?

Probably because a turbocharger does the job more than sufficiently as a reasonable cost.

No surprise there!