Leaky Peugeot 309

Timo, Timo, Timo... Now s**te old French cars...

Well it can't get much worse than that...

Hmm. I'm getting the feeling I'm being watched...

Stalked old boy, stalked.

I'm TOG?

He's working through a list, I reckon.

Done the s**te old German, Italian, Brit thing already, now he's single-handedly going to destroy any remaining good reputation the French motor industry has left ;-)

The sunroof will probably be leaking because the fibre washers where the handle to slide it back bolts on to the glass are shot. Remove the little trim pieces of plastic from the handle, unscrew the bolts and remove them from above, fit new washers, replace...

They are less than 50p from a main dealer, or seal with silicone for a more temporary fix.

Also, these have a reputation for letting in water around the rear light clusters. Try removing, cleaning the seals and sealing with silicone when you re-fit them.

Also check that the sunroof drain tubes have not come adrift at the bottom end. (if it is like the 205 then these should stick down into the wheelarch behind the rear wheels)

Brian.

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Ah, nice one. Cheers Brian.

That's the current plan, as the water seemes to come in via the boot, so the lamp clusters are the obvious place.

If it's not the light clusters it might be that the boot seal is getting tired. I fixed mine by removing it and re-installing so that the joint in the rubber is at the top of the hatchback opening rather than at the bottom next to the lock.

Cheers,

Simon.

Ta. The seal looks pretty much OK and the pattern of the leaks seems to point at the rear lights, but I'll have a look at the seal as well.

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Hmm. Investigated further today and it looks like the lhs light cluster might well be the culprit. The rhs one appears to have been silicone'd in in the past, with the expected result - I can't frigging remove it.

Of course this means that I can't change the bulb without breaking the light cluster which doesn't appeal to me for some odd reason.

So, does anyone have any clever ideas as to how to remove the light cluster if I need to? I'm planning to put some sellotape between the bodywork and the light cluster on the lhs side so when I have to remove the cluster, the sellotape hopefully comes off the bodywork and allows me to remove the cluster. Anyone tried this before? Does it actually work? 'cos otherwise I'd have to live with the water in the boot, I guess.

I have a 205 which somehow gets a puddle in the footwell behind the rear passenger seat. Could this be the reason?

When I've seen this problem its always been due to missing or leaking waterproof sheets behind the door trims, usually due to someone fitting speakers in the doors and not putting the waterproofing back properly. Water passes through doors - it gets in where the glass comes through and exits through drains in the bottom - so you need the plastic sheets to prevent water getting into the car.

Could that also apply when replacing a window? :o) I had to do that a year back after it was broken into in Aberystwyth. Some muppet decided he fancied my radio, why I dont know. The face would not stay up, it was the kind that folded down to put cds in.

Cheers Toby

Yes.