More breaks

Nov 12, 2003 100 Replies

Provided its a good clean rust free shell and you do it neatly it will make a good fast fun cheap rear drive car. That will bust diffs and eat brakes like you will never believe! - Unless that was the Gas - It usualy did it on the change from first to second as the tyres spin up. I eventually started leaving in second gear when using Nitrous it was cheaper and faster!

That should be "launching" in second...

You'd think when someone sells a big brake kit they'd supply uprated pads then!

-- Chet

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Would that be on the road or the track?????? Remember the off 80 - 40 stop is a bit different to a 120 - 60 decel several times a min.

Matt

the donk doesnt come with a gearbox, what would you recommend? and did you have any difficulty fabbing engine mounts?

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Which big brake kit? The AP Racing kits come with Ferodo DS2500 "fast road/track day" pads as standard.

On my car the brakes are s**te, but I'm happy enough with the car for the time being (I'd rather have another years no claims before I get something expensive to insure). New brakes would cost me about £60 - £100 if I went to a scrappy and got all the bits. The only cars I'd bother swapping to of a similar size to mine would be a MK4/5 Fiesta or a 106, so I'd probably find insurance pretty similar, but I'd have the hassle of swapping something I know is fairly reliable to an unknown factor. I would never go down the route of trying to make my Ka into something seriously fast unless I'd more money than sense and went down the route of a mid engined RWD conversion.

You need to get a recon SD1 box cheap... Engine mounts fabbed (!) from chassis rails to suit the SD1 engine plates, and V12 Jag rubber blocks. Gearbox mount fits with spacers and longer bolt.

probably a silly question, I dont want to stupid tune it, a lazy 200 horses would be perfect, is this going to give my g/box a hard time? and the rest of the drivetrain? bearing in mind its from a pants 2.0 sierra? cosworth stuff fit?

A stock rover V8 engine wont fit onto a 2 litre ford gearbox without you adapting the clutch, bellhousing, and making a complex adapter plate. And if you did, the gearbox will break anyway! They break with a 2 litre motor...

Why bother, SD1 boxes are seriously strong, fit in the same space, and the gear lever fits the same hole, even the gearbox mounting still fitsw with a longer bolt and a spacer! And a Recon box is cheap enough...

Your diff will also break... Mine did a few times. I fitted a 2.3 V6 heavy duty one from a 4 speed estate car in the end, seems its stronger than the 3 cosworth ones... My bros V8 sierra was in a higher state of tune than mine, and he bust several Quaife steel cosworth sierra diffs! With two 140bhp nitrous systems, and 4.5 litres and a big downdraft carb. And he was a daft very poor student student...

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Burgerman - John C Williamson

I meant bigger discs with caliper extender brackets. 258mm > 285mm

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Drilled Montego Turbo discs apperently LOL

-- Chet

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The standard ones that came out were only a month or so old, Ferodo ones iirc. Not sporty Ferodo's, just cheapies.

Being that the 405 comes with Bendix or Girling, i'm gonna go out on a limb and say not Lucas :) I have Bendix.

Well the OP is talking about for the road, for which EBC's stuff is fine. Never tried mine on a track, but considering the low power, reasonably light weight of the car, i think they'd be fiiiiiiiine.

"It'll be right"

I got better pads cos

A) they were cheap B) they're better than standard C) i can't get a faster car, insurance is too much, running costs are too high, and i'm only a student, and changing the brakes (no matter what i do) doesn't affect my policy (yes i've checked).

So there :P

Lucas Girling?

-- Chet

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Its got too technical for me now :)

So i'm just gonna say 'probably yea'.

If you have a big car with brake pads that are too small for it you would find that even Yellowstuff would get too hot and fade prematurely.

If they wear too quickly, either the material is underspecified or you are abusing your brakes.

-- James

Compare like with like. A 911 Turbo has rather larger brakes than a Ford Ka.

The different choice in brake pad material is because a Porsche driver expects "high performance" brakes on a "performance" car.

Formula One cars use different materials to road cars, there it is out of necessity rather than because the buyer wants to feel that his brakes are somehow better.

-- James

But you said "The pad material has nothing to do with the performance and weight of a car." Make up your bloody mind!

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